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how to suceed succesion ..?..[lamb-island]

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It is..of this..living/loving/light..that the/Holy-Spirit
reminds you...It is this..that the Holy-Spirit..SEES...This vision invariably..frightens the ego,..early..because..it is..so calm.

Peace is the ego’s..greatest enemy,..because according..to..*ITS
interpretation..of reality,..war/greed/creed/rite/trite/right/ritual/rote..is the guarantee..of its survival.

The ego..becomes strong in..the excitement/incitement/strife
because..if you believe,,.[theidea]..there is strife,..you will
seek..the will..react viciously..because..*the idea of/danger has entered your mind.

This idea*..of miss-perception..[pre-judgment]..itself
IS..an appeal..to the ego...implicit/need..in..meeting..the ego-lack.

The Holy Spirit..is as vigilant..as the ego..to the
call..of danger,..opposing it..with ITS//light-enlightend/strength just..as the ego WELCOMES..it with.all its might...The Holy Spirit counters..this/seemingly welcome..by welcoming peace.

ife/love/Peace and eternity..are as closely related..[in-truth/light]
as..are..death/fear/time and..war...[as untruths/darkness]

Perception.as well as knowledge..derive
their eternal/spiritual-meaning..from RELATIONSHIPS.

*Those..which you..[ergo/ego]..accept
are the..sure-firm[affirmed],,foundations..of your beliefs.

The Separation..is merely another term..for a split mind.
half sane..half lost..in..its..own..same*..[in-sane.]

It.,.[relatedness]..was..not an act,..but a..true-thought. Therefore,..the idea of Separation..can be given away,..[asvadark-one]..just as the idea..of unity..can,be safely gifted..even as simple..an idea*

and either way,..it will,,*be STRENGTHENED
IN THE MIND OF..THE GIVER...The ego..is the symbol of
the Separation,..just as..the Holy/Spirit.is the symbol of peace.

What you..perceive in others..
you are STRENGTHENING..IN YOUR SELF.

You let your mind..misperceive,..but the Holy Spirit
allows/lets.your mind re-interpret..*its own mis-perceptions.

The..wHoly Spirit..is the perfect teacher...It uses only
what..pre-cept/con-cept..intercept..your minds..*ALREADY understand,

that even try..to..teach you..that..you do not..understand

it...The Holy Spirit..can deal with..an unwilling learner
without going..counter to his,,nor theirs/will,..because part of his will..IS still..good-will..for Good...[of god]

Despite..the ego’s attempts..to conceal this part,.it/is still..much stronger than the ego,..even though the ego..does not recognize it.

The Holy/Spirit..allways/will..recognizes it perfectly,
because..it is its..own dwelling-place,..or the place..in the mind
where/it..is at home.

YOU are at home/there,..too,..because it is a place
of peace,..and ALL..peace....is of God.[men create pieces]

You..who are part of God..are not at home..EXCEPT in
His peace...If peace is eternal,..you are..at home only in eternity.

The ego made the world..as IT miss-perceived,,it,..*but the Holy
Spirit,..the RE-INTERPRETATION..of what the ego made,..sees it only as..a teaching device for..bringing..you home...safely..lovingly..timely..mercifully..assuredly.
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 17 November 2013 3:44:26 PM
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from
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=15688

i..noted/your article..cause..of..the one..reply
many people..dont bother..reading..things..like/this..

till..there/is..some..interest

this is..usually..when you..join-in..
the conversation..or..do..update..

but you..may be new.to the olo process..
so..i will..go over ..my responses..

the heading..isnt descriptive..of..the first line..
[nor..most of..the rest..of..the article..]

in fact..i almost gave-up..reading..before/this point..[see quote]..wondering who..is writing such..A....poor me..info-taintment

and/then..saw your face..
then..had to..read on

then..i..found..this

<<..Judaism..recognizes..*the particular relationship
between..*parent and child..by allowing..a longer mourning period.>>

that..i find interesting..anymore info?
a GRACE-period?

<<..While..the/generally..accepted.time...is 30 days.>>

generally accepted..by who..?
[i never..knew]

generally..known..to few?
too few?

is..it Knesset-law..or gods-law?
i didnt..note it in..the bible..is it in..the torah?

where?

or is it..taught..in school..or temple
[see..the parent/children..thing..is the same
as..god and,..his created/creation..kind...of thing

thus in..gods-home
[Israel;..god must be..in*..there somewhere

or/else..he was..chased out..

to..WHERE?
[yet other..peace-filled hearts]

<<..an adult child..>>..priest/rabbi?

<<is..notably/expected..to honor..their..parent's-memory..>>

gods memory..[of an..idea*/creation]
except..god..aint dead*[even/dead..aint dead]
[but..lets take..that..as read.]

<<..by publicly reciting..a prayer,
known as..the Mourners' Kaddish,..for 11 months.>>

May..His great name....[i am,]..be exalted
and..sanctified..is G-d's..great name.[i am]

2 in..the world..which He created..according to His will!
3 May..He establish..*His peace-full/loving..kingdom..again..[in..the hearts..of men.]

4 and..may His..[gifted promise..of ever present..eternal/living loving being..bring atonement/salvation..let..]..salvation blossom..and His anointed..[inspirit]..be bought near.

5 durin.. your lifetime..and during..your days
6 and..during the lifetimes..of all the..House of Israel,

<<a term..that traditionally implies..the reward/
*for piety,..good deeds,.*and charitable work...>

NOT..eternal war?

7 speedily and very soon!

And say, Amen.

AHH..men

The next two lines..are recited
by the congregation..and then..the leader:[who shall..serve you]

8 May His..great name..[i am]..that..i am..is being..in every living being..]..[be..simply by being the being god willed..its being into being]..be blessed..

9 for ever,..and in-to all eternity!

10 Blessed..and praised,..glorified..and exalted,
simply by loving other.

11 extolled..and honoured,..adored and lauded
12 be the name of the Holy One,..blessed be He,
13 above and beyond all the blessings,
14 hymns, praises and consolations
creed/rite/ritual/protestations
15 that..are uttered..into..his words..
thus..into the world!

by..blessings upon..him..ye bring blessing upon..you
by blessing..of other begets..the blessing upon him..for who..the blessing..is is..over due

by simply blessing..thy brother
ye..bring blessings..upon all..of we

ME
WE=he.

in..his mirror/image..are we created
by our form..is his form..fully..filled

And so..it is we..
who say,..Amen.

The half..kaddish/divisions/dire-risions..ends here...[hear>]
Posted by one under god, Monday, 18 November 2013 9:06:43 AM
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Here..the.."complete kaddish"..includes:

16 May..the prayers..works..and..supplications

17 of..all Israel
the reward*..for piety,..good deeds,..and..charitable work...>>

18 be accepted..by..OUR..Father[of all/living]....who is to..gather..us..all..in Heaven;s..eternal

And say,..Ahh..men.
[do..ye wish..to try living..without me..yet again]

Here..the.."kaddish/of..the rabbis"
(including..the kaddish..after..a siyum)..includes:

19 To Israel,..to the Rabbis..and..their disciples
20 to the..disciples..of their disciples,
21 and..to all..those who engage..in..the study
of..the Torah..and not of..the laws of war*

YOU..who....have adopted..as..a state-symbol
the menorah..(candlebrum).

<<..which is explained..in the Tenach..
(on..the occasion of..a previous return..to the Holy Land).

as,WRITTEN

*"not..with..*armed force*..and..not with power,*..
but..*in My spirit..says..the..Lord of Hosts.">>

says..the host*..of lords

see..how we/can..hold..two
incorrect ideas..[see previous post]
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15341

22 in this..[holy]z place
or..in any*..other place,

23 may*..there come..abundant peace,
24 grace,..loving kindness .nd compassion, long life
25 ample sustenance joy..plenty..mercy and salvation

26 from the Father..who is..eternal..even..in heaven
(and..in/embodiment..here..on/earth);
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6040&page=0#176201

27 and say,..Ahh..men.
mene/mene/men-eh?

All variants.but the half/kaddish..conclude:
28 May there be abundant peace..*from heaven,
29 [and]..[good]..useful..helpful interesting life
330 living the present..moment..by the giving..of satisfaction,help,comfort, refuge,
31 healing,..redemption,..forgiveness,..atonement, 2 relief..and salvation..[unto/all..his LIVING re-creation]

33 for us..and for..all..*his people [the most..and the least]
[upon us]..*and upon all]..Israel;
and say, Amen.

34 May He..who makes peace..in..His_high-places
35 grant..[in..his mercy]..ETERNAL/peace..upon us all.
36 and..upon all of..[his nation's]..even so upon Israel;

and say,..
I am..eye..i..even..see..i..in all-men.

a Text..of the..Burial/Kaddish
[no..not yet..we come/to praise..the king..not bury him

let..the dead..tend the dead
for..in*god..we all live..

lets..take..the prayer..as read
now..live..again..in shalom..not..shallow lie

In..the burial/kaddish,.and.that after
a siyum..according..to Ashkenazim,i,..lines 2-3..are replaced/by:

37 In the world..which will be renewed
38 and..where He will..give life to the dead
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15257&page=0
39 and raise them..to eternal life
http://new-birth.net/booklet/Gone_West.pdf
40 and.rebuild ..the city of Jerusalem
http://new-birth.net/booklet/30_years_among_the_dead.PDF

and complete..His temple..there
[for the living god..is sustained..by all life living

and..uproot foreign whorship..from the earth
and..restore Heavenly living/loving..worship to..its dutiful..;position

and may..the Holy..One,see how..blessed is He,
by..setting..free..those in captivity.

reign in..tHis..sovereign splendor
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15301

<<While..the prayer itself..actually..has nothing..to do..with death,..I have found.this ritual..to be cathartic,..as it enables me to draw..on..the support..of my community.

from
http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=15688
Posted by one under god, Monday, 18 November 2013 9:06:47 AM
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page..130
http://miraclevision.com/acim/urtext/acim-urtext-2003-upe-ready-edition.pdf

YOU..are/at home..here..because..it is..
a place..of peace,..and peace..is..the good/of God.
You..who are..part of God..are/not..at home..EXCEPT..in His peace.

If peace..is..eternal,..you are/at home.only..in..the eternity..of loving_grace.

The ego..made..the world..as..ITperceives it,..but..
the ..Holy/Spirit,..[the RE-INTERPRETOR]..of..what..the ego..
has..of itself..created..[has]..made,..what..our ego,..sees.. as..threat

is....only..of use..as.a teaching d-evice..
learning-aid..for..bringing your..inner peace..back..home..too.

The Holy/Spirit..must..perceive-time..and
reinterpret..its learning's..[knowings]..into..the timeless...eternal[cloud-mind/ultra-meta-mind].

The material-ego--mind..must be led..into eternity
THROUGH..the logic[to-it],..off time..[lineal/assertion..
of..ego-mind..into..eccl-mind..because ego..having *made time..
it is..capable..of perceiving..its /opposite...[of time-less].. and..even..accelerated..faster/slower.or..*even/*paused\..time*

The Holy/Spirit..must/work..through..the veracity..of opposites, because..it..must work..with/and..*for.a..even..the mind..that/IS..in opposition.

working..via..Correctness and..earning,
and-be..he..open..to learning...means..You have NOT
made/truth,..but truth..even*now..can still..set you free.

Look as..the Holy.Spirit..looks,..see..and understand
as..He understands...His understanding..*looks.*back..to good..[God], in/remembrance..and..assured knowing..its..*of god..thus..*all/good

[.of*Me.]

He is..in Holy/Communion..always,
and..He is..always..of you..as/me..as part/of YOU.

He is..your guide..to..infinite*salvation,.because
he..holds*[key*]..the*remembrance..of*things/past..and*..to come.

*He..holds this..gladness..the/fullnes...o.. what we
in*eternity..together..will-to become..as one....

the one..witnessing..your every..work..from within..sitting gently in
your minds,..asking only..that you INCREASE..it..in His name/by sharing it..to increase His..joy..in YOU.[yes..in-me too]..

You must/have noticed..how often..I have used..your own
*ideas..to help YOU...B. is/right in saying..that you have learned
[earnmed]..to be a loving,..mercyfull/wise,..and the..very understanding therapist,..to..EVERY-one..except for yourself.

That exception..has given you more than..perception
for others because/of what..you saw in them,[beyond..ego]..
but less..than knowledge..of your real relationships..un-TO them
because*..you did NOT..*make/them..fully..a part..OF..*you.

Understanding..IS beyond..perception,
because..it introduces..inductive/deductive..clear-meaning.

But meaning..is below..knowledge,..even though
it..can grow*..TOWARDS it...It is possible,..with great
effort,..to understand..someone else..[ergo/ego..and to be
helpful*..to him,..but the effort..[of ego]..is misdirected..

subjective/objective

The mis-direction..is quite apparent...
It is..directed..AWAY from you.

This does NOT mean..that it is lost..to you,..but
it DOES mean..that you are..not aware/of it.

I..*have saved..*all..[..EVERY*..]of..your kindnesses
and..every*..loving..thought..you have..EVER..had,..
and I..assure..you*..you have/had many...

{NOTE}..I have..purified them..of errors..which*hid..their light,..and..have kept them..complete/replete..for you..
in..their*own..perfect radiance.

They..are..*beyond/destruction..and
beyond..guilt...They came*..from the Holy-Spirit..*with/in YOU,
and..we know*..that..*what God.*created..*is..eternal.

Bill./once spoke/of..the Kingdom..in this way,..because he
yearns..for what..*he has..so long..repressed.

You are..much more..afraid of it,..because
dissociation..is..more fearful...than..possesion.

B’s..better contact..has allowed him..the strength
to retain ..the fear*..in/awareness,..and..thus.to resort
to..displacement,..which he-is..learning..to overcome..with*YOUR help.

That is..because you
do/not..perceive..*HIM..*as dissociated,..
and so..you..can help..him..with/his..repression,..which..does/not frighten..you

He,.on the other hand,..has no difficulty..in
seeing YOU dissociate,..and..thus..does not have to deal..with repression..in you,..*which WOULD..*produce fear..in him.

Joining in..the..At-one_ment,..which..I have
repeatedly/asked..you..to do,..is*.ALWAYS..a way
*OUT..of fear.
Posted by one under god, Monday, 18 November 2013 3:07:46 PM
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This..does not..mean/that..you can safely/fail to
acknowledge..anything that is..knowingly-true,..

but ..the Holy-Spirit..[presence..of..mind-fullness]..will
not*..fail to help/you..*re*interpret..EVERYTHING..that you perceive..as fearful,..

and teach*..you ONLY..what is..living/lovingly..
eternal..is TRUE...It is beyond..your ability to
destroy,..*but..this..is..*entirely within your grasping-ability.

It..BELONGS to you..*because YOU created it...It..*is/yours because it..*is..apart o..*f you,..[just as/you..are..a part..of God]..,*because.*He created you.

The Atonement..is the GUARANTEE..of the safety..[sanctuary]..
of..the..fathers eternal/Kingdom..[of collective mind...thus..
*Nothing good is..ever/lost,..because it comes..from the_Holy-Spirit,..the..very..voice..that bespake..for..our-Creation.

Nothing..that is..not/good..was ever created,..of true/knowing.
and..therefore..the illusionary..CANNOT be protected...*What the ego makes it..KEEPS..only..*TO ITSELF,..and so it is..without..the surety..of..its own/sourced-strength.

Its un*shared..existence does not die.
..because..*It..like person hood/state-hood..was merely..never..actually/factually..*born...*Real birth
is..*not..a beginning;..*it is..*a CONTINUING...*Everything
that..CAN continue..*has*already..*BEEN born.

But it..can INCREASE.as you a/re willing to/return..the part of your mind..[ergo/ego-mind]..that needs healing..back..in-to..the higher part,..and thus..render your..[goodly]..creating..(creation) undivided.

You yourself..[bill]..always told..your patients..that the
real*..difference..between neurotic and..‘healthy’..[guilt feelings] was..that..*neurotic-guilt feelings..*DO NOT HELP..*ANYONE.

This/distinction..was very wise,..though incomplete.
Let us..make the distinction..a little sharper/now.

Neurotic guilt feelings..are a device..of the ego..for
“atoning”..*without sharing,..and for..asking for pardon*without change.

The ego..NEVER calls for..real atonement,..and cannot
tolerate..*real forgiveness,..which IS..change...exta-[out-of]-ego.

Your concept of..“healthy*guilt-feelings”..has great merit,
but..without the concept..of..the At-one_ment..it lacked..the healing potential..it held.

YOU make..the distinction..in terms/of feelings..which led..to a decision..*not to*repeat..the error,[.which is..only/PART-of healing]

Your concept..therefore lacked..the idea of..UNDOING error.
What..you were really..advocating,..then,..was adopting..a policy of sharing*..without..a real/sure/sound..FOUNDATION.

I have come..to give you..the foundation,..so your/own
thoughts..can make you really..ego-free...You have carried
the burden..of the ideas..*you did/NOT share,..and which were
therefore*..too weak..of will..to increase,..but..you did NOT/recognize..how to..*UNDO..their existence/because..you HAD made them.

You CANNOT cancel out..your past errors alone...They will
NOT disappear..from your mind..*without..process..of mind-remedy.

The remedy..is NOT..*of your making,
anymore..than/YOU are.

The Atonement..cannot be understood..except
as a PURE ACT..OF SHARING...That is/what..is meant
when we said..that it is..ever/possible..even*in..this world..to listen to..ONE voice..

you are..a..part of God,..and..the Sunship is one,..
thus..you..*CANNOT be..limited..to the/self..the ego/alone sees.
Posted by one under god, Monday, 18 November 2013 5:32:51 PM
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The term,..thought,..is often/used..as a synonym..[for cognition]..but this/is..incorrect...A*giant leap..in understanding cognition..is realizing..*that talking..is thinking.

We..talk..*to..each-other..and..talk to..ourselves.
Thinking./.is selftalk,..listening/to others,..speaking/with others, reading..is..thinking..and..writing..is-thinking..too.

Speakers..think..and..listeners..[thinking].form..into
same/thought/interest/alike-thinking-groups..and..in/the..best case arrive/at..a common*understanding..of what..thought..is going/on..*out there.

Self-talk..is/the..only&..conscious*mode o.f thinking..and..it/is..so implicitly..bound--with-in..consciousness..that..“thinkers”..often ..fail/to..identify..self*talk..as their..primary/mode..of thinking.

Thinking is,..therefore,..storytelling,
a form..of argument...>>>

page..95..[self*talk]
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=nx0ZYrhgwN8C&pg=PA94&lpg=PA94&dq=self+talk+l+is+spirit+communication&source=bl&ots=WdKBDQax05&sig=s2xrYC-smThc06x2PlgC02GO2Gc&hl=en&sa=X&ei=GHL_UbTaD8bGkQW-64DIAg&ved=0CDAQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=self%20talk%20l%20is%20spirit%20communication&f=false

then
http://angels.about.com/od/AngelBasics/f/How-Can-I-Protect-Myself-From-Fallen-Angels.htm
..<<in his book \]..Glimpses of the Devil,
http://www.amazon.com/Glimpses-Devil-Psychiatrists-Possession-Redemption/dp/B000FTBPMI/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1319726961&sr=1-1

<<and/concludes..that:
“Possession...is not..an accident.
*In..becoming/possessed,..the victim*must*..at least..
in..someway,..cooperate..*with..or..*sell out..to..the d-evil.”>>

ie..our*thoughts..are*energy..for*..spirit
JUST..*to..think vile..&*IS*..to..*attract..[E]..vile.

<<In his book..about..evil called...People of/the Lie,
http://www.amazon.com/People-Lie-Hope-Healing-Human/dp/0684848597/ref=sr_1_3?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1319726961&sr=1-3

<< Peck says..that..the way to be free..*of bondage..to evil
is to submit to God..and his goodness*:>>

grace/..mercy/..love etc

<<“There are..two states..of being:..
submission to God..and goodness..or..the refusal,
to..submit..to anything*..beyond*..one’s own..will..-of/which refusal..automatically..enslaves one..to the..forces of..evil...empowerd.

We/must..*ultimately..CHOSE*..
to..WHAT*..we wish-to..belong>>..[what..to/give..[ENERGY}..too.]

by..giving..aid/comfort..*[help]..to..*either God..[good]..
or*..the materialistic..ego-self..[referred to..as]..a d*evil.”>>..

our thoughts*..are*..pure*energy
[E*..food]..that..feed angels..or..feed's..demons..
both*..are involved in..'self=talk;..[internal-networking..;IN-spi-ration]

bacteria*..talk..via chemicals
http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://www.ted.com/talks/bonnie_bassler_on_how_bacteria_communicate.html&sa=U&ei=GHL_UbTaD8bGkQW-64DIAg&ved=0CDQQtwIwBw&sig2=IMEufBCWYC1e4VfVxlYtfQ&usg=AFQjCNG_7Q2C1w_OUfeniWLnVK72nK8xvA

Motivational Interviewing..is a collaborative,..
goal-­oriented..method of communication..*with particular/attention..to the..language*..of change.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:IZYTpEm2_CAJ:http://www.motivationalinterview.org/Documents/1%2520A%2520MI%2520Definition%2520Principles%2520%26%2520Approach%2520V4%2520012911.pdf%2Bself+talk+l+is+spirit+communication&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&client=firefox-a&gws_rd=cr&hl=en&ct=clnk

It is designed..to strengthen an individual’s motivation
for*..and movement..toward..*a specific goal..by eliciting and exploring the person’s 'own'..[internal]..arguments for change.

The “Spirit”
of..*Motivational*Interviewing

*MI is more than the use..of a set of technical interventions.

It is..characterized..by a particular.."spirit”..
or..clinical..“way of being”..which is..the context..of interpersonal relationship..within/which..the techniques..are employed.

The spirit of..MI..is based on three key elements
:..collaboration..between the therapist and the client;..
evoking..evolving/progressing..or drawing out..the*client‘s ideas..about change;..and..*emphasizing..the autonomy..of the client.

then

http://www.erinpavlina.com/blog/2006/11/how-to-meet-your-higher-self/

Your higher self is you...You..as living ENERGY*..in the ether.
Your higher self..is the real you,..your total soul consciousness.

The you..that is living..here on Earth
is just a projection..[vessel/vehicle/link]..
of the consciousness*..of your higher self...with ego[id]

Your higher self..is the more complete you,
the one..that isn’t being frustrated..by the veil..that draws down upon us..when we incarnate..*that causes us..*to forget where we came from...indeed where we wish to go..*to.

Before you incarnated,..*your higher self
got together..with some spirit guides..[guilds/societies]..and basically said,..“Will you watch over me..when I incarnate?

I’d particularly..like your help..to accomplish X.”

HS..gets all your guides together,..explains the plan
and how they will be able..to help you,..and then prepares to cast a portion..of its consciousness..onto Earth...
Posted by one under god, Monday, 18 November 2013 6:39:18 PM
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