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Fertility rate of 1.8 and we are still murdering our own unborn babies?

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Suseonline, "Is it a new policy?"

Do you dispute the changes in common law interpretations of the Crimes Act or Criminal Code? It is a very different environment to (say) 20+ years ago when you could have been raising children.

However I am sure you are missing my point because I am not challenging what has changed and nor am I talking solely about late term. Although feminist Leslie Cannold an 'ethicist' (is there such an occupation?) who was to be a running partner with Assange believes in abortion up to the moment of birth with no limitations - healthy, normal infants. Even that is not what I am wanting to address ATM.

What I am concerned about is that the unforseen negative consequences of economic and social policy might be higher abortion numbers among couples who want children. There are government reports stating that young couples who want children are having to put them off because they cannot afford them. As well, they are not having the number of children they want. Could it be that poor Government planning is contributing to that sad state of affairs where it is likely that wanted children are being aborted? Secondly, there is oddly a dearth of data on abortions, why so?

I am not pointing the finger at one political party. Just asking why women at their best childbearing age are being forced by financial circumstances to abort.

Why is it so do you reckon?
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 26 August 2013 7:54:28 AM
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Correction: I should have said that reportedly Leslie Cannold believes in abortion up to the moment of birth etc. One never knows if people are reported correctly. Perhaps she has some limitations that were not reported.
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 26 August 2013 9:00:59 AM
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Dear platypus1900,

You continue to be insulting. You wrote: "warped values based on humanistic idealogy".

Humanistic values are no more warped than Islamic or Christian values. I do not call your values warped, but you apparently feel free to denigrate those values which are different from yours. On hearing you were a Christian I did not bombard you with suggestions that you go to websites that attack Christianity. You did not show the same restraint.

Please be civil. One can differ without calling names or using insulting language.
Posted by david f, Monday, 26 August 2013 10:13:03 AM
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I can't say what values other humanists have regarding abortion, but I have the view that the woman who is carrying the fetus should have the right to terminate her pregnancy if she wants to. It is she who will have to care for a baby if she keeps it. It is she who will have endure the gestation period and labor even if the baby is given to someone else. it is she who will have to fulfill its special needs if the baby is in some way abnormal. Even if she wanted the baby circumstances may have changed since she became pregnant. Maybe my cousin would not have committed suicide if her boyfriend had not been killed in action. I am sure she would not have done so if she could have had an abortion.

It seems to me that those who oppose the choice of a woman to have an abortion are placing the rights of a fetus over the rights of the woman who is carrying that fetus. I support her rights. I think that those who deny her the right to have access to abortion will not have to care for the child if there is one. They will not have to go through pregnancy or labor. They can deny her at no cost to themselves.
Posted by david f, Monday, 26 August 2013 11:28:33 AM
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Platyps1900, it isn't called murder, it is called abortion, and it is legal.
Caning your children and being a murderer are both illegal.
You are being hysterical...
Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 26 August 2013 2:59:55 PM
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Onthebeach . "Just asking why women at their best childbearing age are being forced by financial circumstances to abort."

I am not sure if the abortions are being carried out mainly for financial reasons?
I believe there is usually much more involved in the decision to abort than financial reasons.

There is still a stigma attached to single mothers (religious or cultural)or very young mothers, as well as some fathers may be taking off when they find they are to be a daddy, and the women don't want to do it alone.

At the end of the day, it is the woman's decision, but I do believe that free contraception would help lower the unacceptable abortion rate.
Nobody wants to see such large numbers ( or any) abortions continue.
Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 26 August 2013 3:41:10 PM
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