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Fertility rate of 1.8 and we are still murdering our own unborn babies?

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People you are turning this forum into a religious joust. Please give a miss and allow that person who say he is "one under god" get back there.
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Sunday, 25 August 2013 12:28:00 PM
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While I don't mind that some want to hold a religious debate, there are posts that do not get addressed while the well-practised duel on religion (or does only the Christian religion offend on OLO?) continues.

It was expected that abortion would be safe, legal and uncommon. The expectation of society was also that abortion would rarely be late term. However there appear to be far more abortions than predicted. It is not known how many are late term, or for what reasons.

It is not the 'kids' needing abortions. That number dropped with sex education and easier availability of contraception. There have to be very compelling reasons why young women at the height of their physical and mental powers in their twenties and early thirties are having so many terminations.

Or is it as simple and stupid as more opportunist sex? Rage and leap into action? People who should know better not taking precautions and practising withdrawal? Hard to imagine in a steady affair or marriage where you'd think the couple would have contraception sorted. Or is it casual encounters - emulating the Hollywood opportunism and sex positions and either going for withdrawal or having the condom come loose? In that case STIs would be high. HIV is on the increase in heterosexual women, so it is likely that women's attitudes to casual sex have changed. Raunch culture rules?
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 25 August 2013 1:46:34 PM
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im..IN-spired..by

Raunch culture rules?
ON THE BEACH..?

..<<..Or is it as simple..and stupid as more opportunist sex?>>''

MY THOUGHTS ARE..sex is a comforting thing..so in times of discomfort..we may need the sex..but be too stressed..to remember the pill[etc]

ok unlikely

but..then there are other factors[im presuming]..
like two wages NEEDED..to pay the bills..or rape..[one in four woman get raped..and keeping the child of a rapist..may be that step too far..

the biggest upset..by far is murdering ..[as opposed to killing]
the law reads thou shalt not murder..but murder is a big call..for trying to save the life of a grown mother

lest we forget..we murder*
thousands of living seeds..just to make bread
[we pray..over food..*for that murdered..died..to bring it to our plate

we only live
by killing living vegetables/seeds/beasts

what im saying is
NO-one has clean hands
so lets not blame..the kids

further..
lets see why..mass-debation..masters-baton..is a bad thing
it murders billions...trillions..no googillians of living sperm annually

just breathing we murder many living pollen
just eating ..we murder many bacterium...molds yeasts

in short living..means other things need to die
every second of our lives we killed..something

no one has clean hands
as jesus wrote in the dirt..at the stoning..thou shalt not deliberately murder..but to..*err is human..to forgive is divine*
Posted by one under god, Sunday, 25 August 2013 7:13:56 PM
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one under god,

Accepting that the morality of killing is a continuum. It is not black and white, right or wrong.

What hasn't been explored is the number of abortions, who are having them and why.

Why aren't there comprehensive audits to report publicly on the outcomes of new policy?
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 25 August 2013 9:33:29 PM
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Onthebeach "Why aren't there comprehensive audits to report publicly on the outcomes of new policy?"

Is it a new policy?

Late term abortions are extremely rare, and almost always used only when there is an extremely disabled baby, or a mothers life is at stake.
Late term abortion lies are trotted out by hysterical pro-life activists and their gullible followers.

Reasons for abortions are between the parents and their doctors.
It is no one else's business...
Posted by Suseonline, Monday, 26 August 2013 12:41:24 AM
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@sus

"Reasons for abortions are between the parents and their doctors.
It is no one else's business..."

Double standards.

when i cane my children, it is everybody's business
when convicted murderers are to be hanged...everyone shouts foul

and when innocent babies are murdered, you give me such views?

warped values based on humanistic idealogy
Posted by platypus1900, Monday, 26 August 2013 2:42:26 AM
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