Hi Platypus,

I agree with you that government has no business in what is a personal moral choice, but at what point the person? You say that life starts at conception, but aren't human gametes also living? And what of identical twins or triplets, or even chimeras for that matter? I have trouble with according to that which something may attain in the future. I live in the present, so for me un-united gametes and embryos are potential people, not actual people.

Platypus1900. "yes...her body...her choice, she can have sex
but when she conceives, then a higher moral law takes over...the life of the unborn human"
Really? What higher moral law is that then?
Your law?
Your God's law? The one where you decide who gets to die...like murderers?

Australian law says abortion is legal.

Where does the daddy stand in this choice?
Can't he take care of the contraception?
It takes two to have sex...but many men seem to have a problem with the fact that only the female can become pregnant, and that the people unrelated to her pregnancy have no control over her decisions about that pregnancy.

Thankfully, we have moved on from the 50's...

Yes, platypus,

"Do we believe in the sanctity of human life?"

In light of your previous comment:

"this bloke should have been shot or hanged"

Tell me again about "the sanctity of human life"?

Is the sanctity of life absolute?

@fester
my view is life begins when an egg is fertilised
billions and trillions of sperms are lost every day...that is not life
eggs are lost every cycle..that is not life

@suse
when we discuss moral issues such as life
then it must be God's law
i do not think it is meaningful to discuss morals outside God

man made law without God is unreliable
they are like goal posts that moves
like you said... you are thankful it moved from the 50s

a couple should take joint responsibility
a man who does not take that view is not worth you having sex with

Just a few tough questions....
What if someone was to have that child but not really be able to afford to raise that child?
What if the child suffers because the parents come to resent the child for been born and been a "burden"?
What about post natal depression?
Is it really better for the child to be born and possibly unwanted?
What if the pregnacy is caused from a contracepive failing?

And a small correction.
IUD's are designed to stop sperm from reaching the egg...therefore fertilisation rarely occures, and if it does the device must be removed ASAP.

I am on the fence because as much as I would love to be pro life I beleive there are to many questions that only the couple who are pregnant can answer.

Hi Platypus,

Human gametes are living and capable of fusing and forming a human life. But for you, they become a person at the point of fusion. Could I conclude from this that you are according human gametes the status of a potential human, and do not consider the destruction of this life a crime?