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Arab Winter

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Well that's me for tonight ---I'm off to watch the strangely addictive Tour de France --Cheers!
Posted by SPQR, Friday, 12 July 2013 7:34:06 PM
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Poirot yes it is quite mixed up and no easy answers.
You are quite wrong in thinking I am unaware of the impacts of colonialism.
Bit stuck in my ways I am a product of my time.
And my time too of birth, growing up in a rural area that saw the well off still calling England home.
I have the southern cross both flying, and in this room.
Because first it was a stand against Imperialism, then the birth place of a thought standing together can be the answer.
Britain,like all colonialists ,footprints bought pain and just a little good to its colony,s.
I know of the heroic acts that bought freedom to so many country,s, and when Iraq is mentioned think of Lawrence of Arabia.
But we wast our time,looking back and blaming yesterday for todays events.
You and others are aware,even if it is morally wrong, I do not trust Muslims.
Hate me for it, but look at the life SOME women lead because of it.
And ,no defender of Christianity,can any one say with certainty without religion and its divided faith within a faith these folk would not be slaves to hate.
I will never forget or forgive that little man flogging a burning car, he in my mind is his religions slave and representative of it.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 13 July 2013 6:53:56 AM
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We must not ignore the impacts of the middle east.
If it becomes worse we all will pay for its instability.
shortage of oil, floods of refugees.
Deaths in any country hurt us all and we are about to see many more.
I am not heartless yesterdays reburial of murdered Muslims left me asking why would any human do such a thing?
Maybe the murderers are not human.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 13 July 2013 6:58:20 AM
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Belly,

"Colonialism" and "imperialism: are Poirot's code words for "blame the West"

1) Colonialism and imperialism did not start or end with Western countries --but those in Poirot's camp will never admit that, AND

2) All the woes of the rest of the world (and yes I know Poirot will deny she says "all" --but her actions/posts imply otherwise) are NOT attributable to Western intervention.
Posted by SPQR, Saturday, 13 July 2013 8:29:14 AM
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SPQR,

Of course, your dismissal of my claim that I don't hold the West responsible for everything is probably only attributable to one of your selves.....what does the other one think?

Is he more reasonable, and understands that I'm merely highlighting areas where the West impacts that region?
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 13 July 2013 10:45:49 AM
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Poirot,

Sorry, but I picked-up this on the telepathic web:

P'rot s1:[reading a post on OLO about GW & Iraq] : Hate, hate, hate, hate, hate...
P'rot s2: Hey, what's bugging you?
P'rot s1: This article on OLO about GeorgeW's involvement in Iraq. GeorgeW looks like the teacher I had in high-school, the one who used to hit me with the ruler and I haaaate everythin about him.
P'rot s2: You can't go around saying you hate people or posts because they remind you of your least favourite teacher, you have to cloak it in other terms.[taking over the keyboard] Try something like this *Colonialism by any other name is imperialism - aka - superpower stomping into Iraq to gain influence over resources - and to deliver "freedom" by way of misery*
P'rot s1 Wow! that sounds really cool and intellectual.
P'rot s2 And it gives the same measure of catharsis.
P'rot s1 But what is im...im-pperi--ism?
P'rot s2: Imperialism, is when the US does anyyything.
P'rot s3: Yoohooo! guys, arnt we supposed to be go surfing, wow the waves look sooo cooool today
P'rot s4: WTF! You always get to go surfing, it washes out my bright pink colouring in my hair , this weekend we're going to the gallery and...
P'rot S3 We're not!
P'rot s4 Yes. We. Are!
P'rot s3 Are not!
P'rot s3 Are so!
P'rot s2 Shush UUUUUP! I cant here myself think, now where was I , oh yes, *The US and its allies (us included) go in boots and all, the aggressors, bombing, maiming, destroying and destablilising......*
Posted by SPQR, Saturday, 13 July 2013 12:50:33 PM
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