Two weeks ago on the road I listened to a segment about the middle east.
A seemingly well informed commentator from that part of the world was on ABC Radio National.
He claimed only two Nations Israel and Iran are stable.
And that all others are fighting to stay together.
Seems very true this morning.
Egypt is in trouble and we need no reminder about Syria and just maybe Lebanon.
Shiite vs Sunni, and another splitter too seems only part of the problem.
Maybe the biggest part with the shootings and bombing but Islamic tensions trouble most Muslim country,s too.
So one of the many impacts maybe refugees, but a far bigger war involving even the west looks possible.

Right now the US have 150,000 troops in the field with another 50,000 undisclosed in other operations. The West is there now, the west started it. The west even gave itself a black eye and a cut lip via the 911 hoax to gee up the troops, give them something to fight for.

The micro agenda from America is suppression but the macro agenda is escalation, and that is what Obama is doing with Syria. This all started with the Coalition of the Willing…remember that…more than a decade ago.

Belly discounting the self serving involvement of the West in the Middle East, would there be peace if the West pulled all troops out….my opinion is no, Semitic people are clannish as well as nationalistic....a trait we could use use in the etnically shattered first world.

SOG while I understand past [British French] interference has had an impact,America now so you claim..
Just what do you put this mornings headlines down to?
I am unaware of any western
involvement in the internal Muslim against Muslim killings.
Events make the thread timely and I am waiting with interest for views of others.

Belly>> Just what do you put this mornings headlines down to?
I am unaware of any western
involvement in the internal Muslim against Muslim killings<<

Belly during the Cold War the Yanks and the Ruskies took opposing sides in all conflicts. The premise for the stance was simple, you were ideologically opposed to the faction that has the support of your nemeses, and the Middle East was no different.

This policy saw America opposing one faction in one Arab nation while supporting the same faction in another. One example is how America supported the Taliban against Russia, but is now fighting them in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

We have seen via Sadam Hussein how you can be an instrument of American control one day as in the Iran/Iraqi war and their enemy the next…and it has nothing to do with how you treat your citizens. There is no moral stance to America’s actions; they are based on the needs of the globalists that the American administration is puppet to.

Regarding Egypt… Before the Muslim Brotherhood gained control with 51% of the plebiscite Mubarak had been for three decades the well-paid enforcer for the US and Israel, sealing off Gaza from the outside world and preventing aid flows across the Egyptian border, helping Israel to continue oppressing the Palestinians and stealing their country. The Arab Spring which began with the American installed puppet leader in Tunis getting the bullet brought about free elections and Mubarak went.

Like Yemen and Jordan the military in Egypt has been the recipient of vast amounts of funds from the Yanks, I expect that flow stopped when the Muslim Brotherhood took over a year ago and that is what I believe motivated the generals to put their noses in. Always follow the money, or lack of it.

Belly my china, the theme of your thread is will the Arabs find cohesion given the social dysfunction that the sects bring to a religion….no, but America is certainly the great Satan in this play.

not to many decades away from seeing the same rubbish in Britian.

That America has any real involvement in the Egyptin conflict is blatent Islamic lies. The problem is Democracy is not understood by Islam and they only want one voice one law. The majority rule does not accomodate other minority voices and that is the problem. The Egyptian opposition will not accept the rule of shari'ah which the Government wish to impose.

It is Western democratic freedoms which America has; that is the conflict.