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Arab Winter

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Dear sonofgloin,

The US and the USSR did not take opposite sides in all issues during the Cold War. In 1948 when Israel fought the Arabs in its War of Independence both the US and the USSR backed Israel while Britain and France backed the Arabs. The colonial powers already in the Middle East backed the Arabs while those wanting to establish themselves in the Middle East backed the Israelis. The Korean War was backed by the UN Security Council. The Soviet did not veto the authorisation. It apparently was quite happy to see the US take on North Korea and China even though China and North Korea were ostensibly part of the Communist bloc.

Where nations have common interests they may be acted on even though those nations are in general opposed.
Posted by david f, Thursday, 4 July 2013 1:07:17 PM
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Dear Belly,

The following link is worth a read:

http://www.bertelsmann-stiftung.de/cps/rde/xchg/bst_engl/hs.xsl/nachrichten_114948.htm
Posted by Lexi, Thursday, 4 July 2013 2:23:41 PM
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Josephus>> That America has any real involvement in the Egyptin conflict is blatent Islamic lies<<

Josephus, I am certainly not a defender of Islam, Islamic migration or Semitic cultures in general.
But you’re going to get more truth from Al Jazeera than you are from Fox or Reuters tiger.

Who can we believe….none of them really, but especially not the US administration.
Posted by sonofgloin, Thursday, 4 July 2013 2:27:15 PM
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The revolution in Egypt was brought about by years of "reform" wherein the World Bank and the IMF in cahoots with Mubarak poked and prodded and privatised that country.

Egypt was the World Bank's "top reformer" in 2010.

The only problem was that the general population saw none of the benefits which were funnelled into the pockets of the ruling elite and offshore to corporate entities.

So eventually they reacted, then revolted and, as is the way with these things, went to a diametrically opposed solution.

Egypt has been one of the more progressive Islamic countries, and this latest "readjustment" brings them back into line with a less fundamentalist political ideology.
Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 4 July 2013 2:32:17 PM
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David f>> The US and the USSR did not take opposite sides in all issues during the Cold War. In 1948 when Israel fought the Arabs in its War of Independence both the US and the USSR backed Israel while Britain and France backed the Arabs. The colonial powers already in the Middle East backed the Arabs while those wanting to establish themselves in the Middle East backed the Israelis.<<

You are right David.

David f>> The Korean War was backed by the UN Security Council. The Soviet did not veto the authorisation. It apparently was quite happy to see the US take on North Korea and China even though China and North Korea were ostensibly part of the Communist bloc.<<

Right again, but Communist bloc or not China and Russia were certainly not mates at that time and their “split” even affected the Australian Communist Party…..members asked each other “are you Chinese commo or Russian commo.

David f>> Where nations have common interests they may be acted on even though those nations are in general opposed.<<

There are always exceptions David, but exceptions do not define the character
Posted by sonofgloin, Thursday, 4 July 2013 2:38:12 PM
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Dear sonofgolin,

I think this banner photographed in Tariq Square probably spells it out quite well;

http://i.imgur.com/n7Kh7qu.jpg
Posted by csteele, Thursday, 4 July 2013 2:43:53 PM
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