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I cannot understand why young people today apparently have the choice of working or not working?

I know many young persons who do not have a job, preferring to stay at home and receive the dole, laying around and smoking pot, which appears to be the height of their ambition in life.

The government bodies will tell you that they cannot do this, but lets face it,....they do and probably have been doing it for months, if not years.

It would be interesting to see in print an HONEST account of exactly how many people are unemployed and receiving taxpayer funded "relief" rather than persuing the opportunity to work for a living.

This choice should not be available to anyone who is able-bodied and capable of working for their keep.

Wait for the bleeding hearts and the do-gooders to jump up and say that there are not the jobs available for everyone wanting to work, to which I say poppycock, the most unqualified moron can be employed
picking up rubbish along the sides of the road, and in many other public areas.

This mindset of laying around getting paid for doing nothing has to stop, before the current Labor Government wrecks the whole economy, and we end up like Greece, Cyprus and many other of the the shamefully indebted nations.

I say if you are able-bodied and capable of working then get off your backside and get a job doing something, ( I know you will probably say you are currently unemployed, but you want to be a Brain Surgeon?)
but sorry, everybody has to do their little bit to keep the ship afloat, so if you do not wish to participate, then we give you NOTHING!
Posted by Crackcup, Sunday, 24 March 2013 8:24:24 AM
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Crackcup,
If you want to eliminate hangeronarism you need to eliminate socialism first. You see, the notion of of social support was hijacked about 40 years ago by the neo sozialisten under the pretence of socialism. It has now morphed into a monster feeding on itself 7 getting more obese by the day. Those of us who want to put a stop to this insanity are branded either racist or redneck by those too stupid to see even with hindsight available up front.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 24 March 2013 2:14:50 PM
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Dear Crackcup,

It is not clear from your post whether what you object to is:
1) Young people not working.
or
2) "We" having to pay those young people who do not work.

What if a young person just lives with their parents and lives on their account? or what if they live on their savings? is that a problem?

Also, you say "then we give you NOTHING!" without explaining first who are these "we". Do you object for example if myself and others help such young people through St. Vincent de Paul or Anglicare? What right have you to tell me what to do with my money?

And why should everyone involve themselves with money and economics in the first place - can't they just be good people without expecting a formal pecuniary reward?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 24 March 2013 7:37:40 PM
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Yuyutsu, that is an obtuse argument. You are well aware that Crackcup is complaining about the too easy access to taxpayer funded welfare.

Of course no one gives a damn what you chose to do with your own money, however when you include agencies like St. Vincent de Paul or Anglicare, which are heavily supported by tax payer funds, you are merely disguising the source of the money rather than changing it.

I most definitely do object to you or any other bleeding heart claiming the right to chose the distribution of our taxes, either directly by centertlink, or by agency.

When I went cruising in my yacht I went for considerable periods without being employed, but never assumed I was entitled to any form of welfare, or taxpayer support. I returned to Oz one year to find a safe spot for the cyclone season. I went to the Commonwealth Employment Service in Townsville to check the prospects for employment.

The clerk, assuming I was applying for unemployment benefits, which I was not, wanted to know how I had been supporting myself in the 5 months since I had last worked. He was incredulous when I replied "out of the bank". Evidently it was unknown for anyone to support them selves while doing what they wanted to do.

Europe's problem today is excessive welfare, which has destroyed their economies. Anyone who can't read the warning sines is an idiot.

Oh Hi Julia, how's the DIS going? Found the funding yet love?
Posted by Hasbeen, Sunday, 24 March 2013 8:40:55 PM
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What right have you to tell me what to do with my money?
Yuyutsu,
None if you don't claim it in your tax return. I strongly object to just keep paying more & more taxes so more young people can have the CHOICE of not doing any work. You think I enjoy going to work so that I can pay tax ?
You say people living with & off their parents ? get real ! Those parents can't fill out the tax deduction forms quick enough. Guess who is paying for it all in the eventual ? We all are !
Want a life, get a job ! Stop bludging.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 24 March 2013 8:43:20 PM
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I know many young persons who do not have a job, preferring to stay at home and receive the dole, laying around and smoking pot, which appears to be the height of their ambition in life.
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Did they start off that way or were they dealt a bad hand?

I know a few myself. They all had apprenticeships, but then the companies they worked for all went broke and they haven't been able to find new ones. They sit around my garage with my son every Friday and Saturday nights playing computer games and cards. They all say the same thing. Flipping burgers or filling selves don't fill their cars with petrol any better than the dole, so why bother?

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the most unqualified moron can be employed picking up rubbish along the sides of the road, and in many other public areas.
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See filling selves and flipping burgers above!
Posted by RawMustard, Sunday, 24 March 2013 9:11:18 PM
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