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Rawmustard, the lates brain wave of thought by some, is to add more people just to keep the cash-register,s ringing, however this plan will just fold in on its self with more unemployed as its by-product.

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Planet3
Posted by PLANET3, Monday, 25 March 2013 10:53:15 PM
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millions of young people out there "choosing" to bludge
mikk,
why the blown out of proportion reply ? No one's talking about millions. The argument is about the many who seem to think it is their god-given right to sit back & don't do anything if they don't want to but still expect support from those who do go to work.
I tell you what you could do to get an idea of what it's like for most of us. Go to work & then give half of what you work for to some total strangers who don't even acknowledge you as you say good morning to them as you walk past them sitting on a beach on your way to work.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 7:23:56 AM
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Dear Individual,

<<who don't even acknowledge you as you say good morning to them as you walk past them sitting on a beach on your way to work.>>

I don't justify this behaviour, but no wonder after the tortures they endure in Centerlink they no longer feel they owe anyone anything.

Once Centerlink is replaced with a fixed unconditional universal payment (whether one works or one doesn't), those young people will have more incentive to work because while no one will tell them to, if they do they will have more money in their pockets.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 7:40:07 AM
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Yuyutsu,
Where I live the Government stipulates that we employ a certain quota of certain people. Now, the greater majority show up for work when they feel like but they still get paid full fortnight. We are not allowed to dock them because we would be branded a certain despicable word.
We are literally falling ar$e over backwards to help the many young but they literally do not want to work. I remember when their fathers were young & exactly the same & they now bleat discrimination, under paid work etc.
Their sons & daughters are gradually starting to bleat discrimination and, just like their fathers they'll be called respected elders before long by the academic ignoramuses in the South. Sounds like I'm knocking a certain group of people doesn't it ? Yes & that certain group includes a large number of outsiders who do not belong to this group, they belong to the Public Service.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 8:34:37 AM
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It appears that there exists in our community a very large group of people who believe that the unemployed are "entitled" to stay in bed and receive the dole for whatever reason, and believe me when I say that "having been dealt a bad hand" is NOT one of them!

I personally know many who prefer not to seek work, sit at home in their taxpayer subsidized house or flat, smoking Dope, cigarettes and drinking booze or spirits.

The Unemployment Benefit as such was designed to offer temporary relief whilst a person was unemployed, actively seeking work. It was never designed to sustain the habit of drugs, booze and the easy life doing nothing. Many of these young able-bodied dole recipients are shacked up with girlfriends, who provide a constant source of sexual
satisfaction, invariably too lazy to use birth control, thus inevitably ending up in the family way, conveniently providing a better source of income ie: Baby Benefit and Family Benefits. These same young "beneficiaries" seem to think that the world owes them due to the fact that most have been mollycoddled, by parent(s) who themselves are beneficiaries of the free hand-out, and can see nothing untoward in continuing the line of growing recipients.

I am afraid to say that somewhere down the line, very shortly, we are going to witness a massive change in the way the benefits are paid, if we are to survive financially. No one will be able to get a hand-out without fairly contributing realistically, and many of these layabouts will get exactly what they deserve,... NOTHING!
Posted by Crackcup, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 8:49:26 AM
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Not that many years ago society had an answer to 'layabout' problems. It was called the "Vagrancy Act" and simply meant that if you could work and chose not to you went to prison for 3 months.
Coupled with the "Consorting Act" and the "Street Offenses Act" and the "Truancy Act" we just about had the whole thing covered.
Perhaps we should remember what Dr. Adrian Rogers had to say

“You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation.

You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.”

~~ Dr. Adrian Rogers, 1931- 2005
Posted by chrisgaff1000, Tuesday, 26 March 2013 9:08:37 AM
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