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Judge Hands Down Findings on EMANEL EXPORTS WA for Major Animal Cruelty

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Nicky,
"quite frankly, the incomes or otherwise of WA farmers is of absolutely no interest to me"

Obviously. Just like farmers have little time for animal libbers, not because they don't care for their animals, but because of the ignorance(not necessarily stupidity) displayed in libber rants.

I guess it is too hard to educate the overseas buyers on welfare? Much easier to turn a blind eye as long as they don't use "Australian" animals.

Live exports are a form of diversification. When animal groups get around to paying farmers to allow the animals to live out their natural life on farm, farmers will listen. Anything less is pure rhetoric.

nicky, farmers couldn't buy the PR that people like you provide. Thankyou so much.
Posted by rojo, Friday, 18 May 2007 9:54:02 AM
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LOL! Wendy, Nicky, you guys just kill me. The truth just slowly unravels ....

Wendy, that abattior was export. If you had read all of farmonline yesterday you would have known that. It will probably just sit idle like others in QLD.
Posted by PF, Friday, 18 May 2007 11:29:37 AM
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Nicky
Do you see? Do you get it now? Rojo is right of course. They dont need anything more than people bagging farmers and now Muslims in Me in general
Your doing all! the work for them.
You all have done an enourous amount of damage for the right reasons.
Boy, you dont care about WA farmers. Great Just great! Nicky Tar.

Yes we CAN slaughter here- but only if we befriend the ME people and our Farmers.

Look as far as I can see this is political the way these groups are controlled in Australia.
WHY was it agreed many years ago by these people with the Government that- they would hold the first Animal Welfare enquiry into Animal Welfare in Australia- ONLY if it was presented from that ONE point of veiw? vegetarian.
Why do YOU!! think they agreed to that?
I hold my `own` views- To always have the Animal Groups under control.
How easy then to use the media to discredit main stream groups and people. The same media that are riddled with giants involved in live exports.
All this by a person who worked in a political office before running for head of a Animal group. With the same Senator that not interested to work with other groups despite them being in his same area.
Umm Who do they give their preferences to? Oh yeh thats right Labour. Labour who helped create the mess in the first place with their give me give me more strikes until it broke the camels back and somebody said-qoute[ Stuff the unuions will will send the bastards alive.
Welcome to the world of politics Nicky and understand Live Exports are political and so are some of these groups. Problem is they never worked out they were done over like a dogs dinner. Or Did someone? You think about it Nicky. Sadly then they mislead good people in the public like yourself.
A blind eye indeed and its time those who follow these groups like sheep understand the full picture. You clearly dont.
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Friday, 18 May 2007 12:05:35 PM
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Dear me. I am totally mystified by that message. I don't know who triggered the first animal welfare enquiry - in fact, I don't know what enquiry you mean - but as an enquiry I suspect it was government under pressure and had absolutely nothing to do with vegetarianism. I don't know what organizations/party politics this is about either, it's all a bit incoherent.
Being in NSW, I also have no idea about what representation PETA would have in Tasmania (if that's what that statement means), but since they have no representation anywhere else in Australia for legal reasons, that is another mystery.
In answer to the questions from the others, I believe that the magistrate in WA continues to "reserve her decision" at this time.
To all the howls of indignation, please read the posts a little more carefully; you will see that they really are quite qualified and do not reflect the "broad brush" to which you all seem to subscribe. My statement did not refer to Muslims as a group in its entirety, it referred to those individuals filmed slaughtering animals in the Bassetin slaughterouse in December/January (and other places in the Middle East in quite recent times), and I hold to the view that those people are indeed savages. My statement about farmers (WA or anywhere else) clearly referred to those involved in the live export trade (and other cruel practices).
PALE, you really do yourself few favours insulting and threatening anyone who disagrees with you, or does not fall in with your plans of the day - perhaps it is why you have been unable to get whatever support it was that you were seeking.
Nicky
Posted by Nicky, Friday, 18 May 2007 10:13:16 PM
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Nicky

I am sorry you could not follow the thread. In order to do anything in life properly you require the background knowledge.

Has it ever occured to you we might be right. That politics 'might' be invovled within 'some groups.

We are not short of support either working in conjunction with RSPCA QLD and Muslim Leaders of Australia.

I will write to the co founder of Animal Liberation on the board with Peter Singer and ask her concent to post her letter. [ Very interesting]

People in ME have no training with live stock.

They dont read their minds and would laugh if you suggestd it.

The best abattoirs operate by following a beasts mind set.

Instead they attack one eye and slash tendons because they are scared of large animals.

They do it to protect themselves. Yes its barbaric no argument.

The Australian Government and the opposition are the savages. The National Party are more to blame than any other. Shame on the National Party.

As for the add sent to me 'by' PETA for Tassi its a fact.


If you really want to help stop live exports then work to find farmers to ensure supply so we can build more plants.

I hear a few high profile people in Animal Welfare are 'now requesting funds to carcass Halal Meat to ME.

Give us a break. After asking them to work together on this with us for years they are now doing as they have always done. Copying.

I want a much more `independant` system. No more saying they wont take carcuss. No more fronts and white washing reports.

People who retire often find its best left at that. Otherwise things might get too much for them.
Dont play into the industry and and media`s hands Nicky is my best advise to you.

Dont bag farmers or call the people overseas barbaric. Dont lash out at people as you have farmers and us every chance you get. Learn to listen as well as post your comments.

For The Animals.
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Saturday, 19 May 2007 12:14:55 AM
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And still I am mystified, so I can only surmise that you are referring to Animals Australia and/or Animal Liberation, and I guess Senator Bartlett (although I'm not sure what it is that he has done to incur the wrath directed at him). You do not say who you believed "copied" you and with what. I am also surmising, but are we referring to the Senate Committee for Rural and Regional Affairs and Transport, and if so, where is the vegetarian agenda, for heavens sake? It was chaired by Bill Heffernan, an ignorant bigot who is also a farmer, and treats the whole notion of animal welfare as a joke (according to Hansard extracts I have read) and included the queen of live exports, the late and unlamented Jeanne Ferris. No-one on such a committee should have a commercial interest in animals, because it is a clear conflict of interest, but if you want a certain result, of course, you stack the committee.
Labor has not been in power for 11 years, and that would have given the Coalition plenty of time to act had it been so inclined, but certainly Labor has had its share of involvement, and it is Kevin Rudd's position that he will not put a stop to it either. Julia Gillard ignores correspondence on the subject.
Regarding the PETA ad for Tasmania (? still to be clarified; what were they advertising for?) Jenna might have been interested in knowing about it, since she is down there.
Nicky
Posted by Nicky, Saturday, 19 May 2007 1:01:03 AM
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