Nicky
Didnt think of Jenna great idea.
Jenna if you are interested we will supply contact. I have requested you contact us direct on several occasions.
There are some things we are not ready to go public with. Your too well informed on `some things` not to have connection.
Thats ok. Working together `is the key to success.
That last post was one of the best you have written. It was fair yet enquirying, informative polite and professional.

I am going to respond by dedicating the next few posts to answering your questions.

Your asking the right questions and you deserve to be answered.

It is not possible to cover each issue in three hundred and fifty words.

Like you I am here for the Animals and creating jobs for our regional people.

Please be patient and allow me to answer all your questions but feel free to address me on anything I have written as we go along.

Then `after I have answered all your questions by all means lash out at me if you wish.

I am going to start with Bill Heffernan but only as an example of others with conflicts of interests regarding Animal Welfare.

Hes just another one who follows the sheep.

Hes not the type to rock the boat or excel himself towards creating new projects.

NOBODY should have a conflict of interest- of course you are 100% correct.

That includes and especially media giants as well as those in Government jobs. Its outrageous.

The last time Uncle Bill called me[the only time] he was none too pleased about my letter informing him we would hold public enquires throughout each state of Australia in parks in a `pink tent`and invite off shore media and others.

We thought the pink tent was a nice touch but Bill didnt share our enthusiasm to say the least.

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It did appeal however to offshore media.

Bill rushed the letter to RSPCA National for an "explanation".

I reminded him when he called we were related by marriage.

Once he realized he made a remark. It was SO 'typical.

Actually going back I left directly after that wedding despite having paid for three days accommodation.

I was so upset and angry I took a Taxi from Goulbourne to Canberra air port and sat all day waiting for a flight back to QLD.

I have never told "anybody" what I heard spoken to his brother while the bride and groom danced.

So yes I "KNOW" what he is like as a person Nicky.

As to his his position- Of course he should not have had a seat on the board of Animal Welfare.

Yes it’s stacked with conflict of interest. He’s certainly not the only one either. Look at Amanda. One can hardly think of it without a snicker. How cruel! and one of our leaders!

If Labour had good advisors they would have introduced our co-joint venture as a policy.

It’s a missed opportunity for them. Arrogance is only part of it they lack experience and skills.

At least John Howard and Peter McGauran even Mark Vaile at the time - said Sounds interesting in merit can you get us a report and then we can meet.
My point is isn’t it supposed to be the opposition who listen and the Government being arrogant.

The opposite applies in this case. I am NOT singing their praises either! in regars to Animal Welfare.

However the difference is they are smart enough to know some changes MUST be made and other ventures included. Labour are not.

They dont know a smart policy if its wrapped up in a bow to them.

Julia ignores you does she. Ask her next time why they refused to inform the public that AWB were also live Animal Exporters?

Ask her if they are elected will they make it law that all donations to political parties are disclosed? Speaking of feeding the chooks.

http://www.livexports.com/cowgun.html

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She can’t be worse than Senator Steve Fielding. He ignored all correspondence for years. Such Compassion from our Christian Leaders. I am SO ashamed.

Even after the QLD RSPCA CEO myself and a Catholic Minister who has lived in ME flew from QLD to Melbourne to see him. No reply.

Nicky I originally set this co joint Aussie Farmer working with ME up to direct all donations to go to RSPCA National, Animals Australia and any other sincere people.

RSPCA National have shown an 'extraordinary lack of interest' to help us push for co joint ventures to be marketed through MLA and Austrade as policy.
They denied requests or assist with meetings with Farmers Federations and AVA. Simply things that would have been easy for them and cost nothing.
Antje in particular is outraged they have refused for years to put this link up on RSPCA National site.
http://consciousevolution.com/onshu/view_signatures.php

We are very `fortunate` to have our RSPCA QLD CEO.

We wrote for years inviting Dr Hugh Wirth to attend meetings with Muslim leaders and overseas delegates.

Not even a reply to say sorry not interested. The arrogance similar to Bills.

However I hear through the grape vine he now has great interest in promoting Halal carcasses to ME?. [Of course we may have been misinformed.]

I know many Animal groups for years have told their members to vote Democrats because Labour would consider a huge amount of those votes were from public with concerns for Animal Welfare.

We are just pointing out Labour and OTHERS in Animal Welfare " HAD an oportunity" and a REASONSIBILTY and DUTY to have brought Live Exports into the spot light at the AWB enquiry.

2 Why didn’t Julia and Rudd under the obligation as opposition disclose to the public at the AWB enquiry the fact that its not just wheat ABW export but live animals.?

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Given the public interest about Live Animal Exports which was documented no less then five times on 60 Minutes -I would have 'thought others besides us would have demanded the connection to AWB was made public.

We contacted the Animal Liberation head and he didn’t even know of the connection.
We contacted several others- same thing. We sent docs of proof to everybody including the Shadow Minister at the time Kevin Rudd.

Including the heads of the AWB enquiry demanding it was made known to the public.

Nobody wanted to do anything. So we sent a half a dozen strippers to stand out the front of the enquiry protesting the cruel live export trade.
As ‘Shadow Minister’ you would have thought Kevin Rudd would have jumped to inform the public.
Note Nicky we had to protest alone.

Kevin Rudd and Labour were given every opportunity and had a clear duty to not only inform the public but call for an open public Royal Commission into live Animal Exports and the funds going to Saddam. So were others- instead silence?
This is about the time Yabby will come in and say AWB with their many interests were all listed and on open public records.
They play on that. They know full well also that the average Aussie worker family person does not sit tracking through such documents. They ‘bank’ on it.

You asked about Andrew Nicky
Dont know. I dont mind Andrew. Hes certainly better than most. We supported his Senate enquiry into Animal Welfare.
We thought he along with Animals Australia Animal liberation would be happy to see for the second time a joint subs from Muslim leaders working with others.
That was a two thousand year step in the right direction.

We never heard from Andrew in regards to the sub or Animals Australia nor Animal liberation.

All that happend was our petition to Ban live Exports was ordered according to Andrews web master to be taken off his site. This one.>

http://consciousevolution.com/onshu/view_signatures.php

The sub was arranged by a Muslim Gentleman. Their first This one>
http://www.halakindmeats.com/submissions.html

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Andrew has delivered some wonderful speeches up Rockhampton areas working with other guest speakers

He has also attended one of our meetings with QLD Government AMIEU and Islamic Leaders along with RSPCA QLD regarding HKM.

I informed him of what the lady had said that he would only work with that particular group. Andrew said that was untrue.

I would be dishonest if I did not say I was disappointed that he was not a lot more helpful in regards to driving the co joint venture here in QLD.

It’s good for QLD employment and would eventually delivering jobs for QLD regional areas while improving Animal Welfare.

Our official position is we stand 100 % behind Senator Bartlett the same as Bob Brown One Nation and anybody else regarding Animal Welfare work.

Not only as Senators now but in the future with any work undertaken to improve Animal Welfare. I think Andrew especially will do something with Animal Welfare later in life.

I don’t know why Andrew took the petition off Nicky and showed no interest in the sub to his Animal Welfare Enquiry.

Perhaps you might like to ask him. I can only tell it as it is. The truth as you enquired of me.
You might also enquire of the same from Animals Australia considering they claim to be the peak organisation of Animal Welfare in Australia.

Our members were bitterly disappointed.

It would seem that perhaps the lady who told me years before hand he would only work with ‘ her’ was indeed speaking the truth...

So you now have to look into the back ground of how the whole Animal Welfare system was set up all those years ago.

Hence my comments about the agreement made between the Government and founders many years ago and in response to your question Nicky.

Our concern Nicky is the Animals. We feel unless an alternative to live exports is found its pointless campaigning against live exports. Live exports have tripled despite millions in donation given by the public to stand against it.

"If Labour had good advisors they would have introduced our co-joint venture as a policy.
It’s a missed opportunity for them. Arrogance is only part of it they lack experience and skills."

ROFL Wendy, do you really think that anyone takes you seriously?

Ah well, a bit of comedy on OLO, for those bothered to read some
of these posts, can't really do any harm I guess.