Hello Jenna And All.

Well at least you have managed to keep your sense of humour- `some how`.
Reply regarding getting a CD to each house.

It can be done. Maybe not all at once.

I agree postage is too expensive.

When you stop to think about it the last lot of pictures put out by Animals Australia would be fine.

You might ask them.?

Public speaches is a step in the right direction. Good work.

We need to do some research. I want to know how many RSPCA members there are in Australia - Then AA- AL PAACT voiceless HS AACT and the other fifty or so Animal Groups.
Once we had an idea we could go from there.
I ought not to be giving this much away at the bar, so to speak.


We have been invited to several Churches.
I hope later we can pay for TV advertising.
Jenna Said>
AMSA has now handed over all its responsibilities in relation to animal welfare (as in Marine Orders No. 43) to AQIS.
Reply
Ah Yes `AQIS` Can you get a copy of the requirements under the handover?
I think we might find some diverting to air. That will be the next so called improvement in the name of animal welfare.

Do you recall the Drs name that put out the report on noise and stress to animals? Think we might need it.
Watch Wa in the next few weeks.
I wonder if they really know how much public interest is in this case AA brought on.
Tell you what our phone has not stopped with people asking the result of that case and we are in QLD.

Her "Honour" must be on stress leave after veiwing the evidence!

http://consciousevolution.com/onshu/view_signatures.php

Oh but here I go again forgetting my manners.

I would like to Thank Elders one of the largest Live Animal exporters In Australia for Sponsering this page.

Also To remind the Australian public of what live animal exports are.>

http://www.rspca.org.au/campaign/liveexport_evidence.asp

6 point 10% ah.

NO THANKS!

How could Elders or anybody else make money from such a cruel trade?

I am so ashamed of my Government that allowed this to continue.

We will be opening plants and we will be inviting overseas purchasers of meat to co join with Aussie farmers.
All our Farms will be free range and creek fed.
People world wide will want free green health meat for "their" familys.
99 percent of people will be happy pay more to get it and have a big concern for animal welfare.

After all these people are hardley broke in most cases are they.

What I dont understand is why you dont get into Free Range Farms and Farming Education Schools and wrap it up together with real estate.
I mean you have all the sea change people and arriving in Australia.
Anyway that what I will be doing. I am very confident some of the other banks and real estate agents will welcome the chance to crack into it.

Here is a message from not only Australian people but the world.
I suggest you read it.

http://consciousevolution.com/onshu/view_signatures.php

Thank you once again Elders The Large Traders Of lIVE Animals for sponsering this page.

Cruelty to Animals The Australian and World Wide Public Say NO

Hi PALE
Could you not find out RSPCA membership numbers through your connection with RSPCA Queensland? I don't have any connection with them, so they would be unlikely to tell me, I suspect. I'm not aware of the doctor's report you mention, but did you happen to see the claptrap from MLA'a Nigel Btown in Middle Eastern (but not Australian) newspapers in the middle of last year (Gulf Daily News and others)? He said that it is perfectly fine to hog-tie sheep and transport them in the boots of cars, because it makes them "feel safe" (we should try it on him and see if he feels safe). He further said that it is common practice in Australia and Europe. He has also posted a response to Juanita Phillips' interview with Lyn White in The Bulletin - have a look at the stuff at www.liveexportcare.com. I've never seen such a great collection of fairy tales. Here in Tasmania the lead live exporter was/is Roberts, also a large real estate entity, but I suspect, from reading the farmers' rag TasCountry that Elders has been doing it by stealth all along by sending the animals to Victoria first, to be shipped out of Portland. The Department of Primary Industry, which sub-contracts a vet to AQIS, is refusing to answer questions about that. I'll see if I can get something on the AMSA/AQIS handover, but I haven't been able to find any publicly available documents yet. If you read that thoroughly flawed report about Australia having the highest standards in livestock exports in the world, you will see that - yet again - it only goes as far as the ship while it is in an Australian port.
Bye for now

Jenna

Jenna
Sure I will find out for you about how many members in QLD. I suppose I ought to know but don’t. Yes we are connected We working in conjunction with RSPCA QLD on the Live Animal Exports See>
http://www.livexports.com/

No I have not seen Nigels Latest in ME. Could you send it via the pale site please?
We might just have to send some info there ourselves.
I have not looked at the other site you put up. I have been meaning to. Don’t worry we have our own contacts and can also get the correct information out to people.
Its very GOOD they have been silly enough to put that out Jenna. Makes it much easier for us to go back and inform the people its not Halal doing it that way but Harum Forbidden.\

They will listen to us before him I promise you. Muslims listen to muslims re Halal meat. the fact they are waisting money over there shows they are worried.
Thats Ok. if we dont Accredit it as halal that wont touch it even if they go hungry.
Unless Nigel is going to covert to Islam I think they will see it as a joke like us.
These [people are not stupid
Re Tasi. Yes you are correct. That’s is correct. AWB also who are with Elders regarding these activitys.
You know your stuff.
I can help with some of these docs you want but please call me 0755392369.
I will call you straight back to save your costs. I don’t wish to post some of it yet.
Could you please help me locate a few Halal Abattoirs/. I had them all written down but mis placed them/. I can call AMIEU but it would be easier for you.
.

Look at this We will be on it soon. Should have been ages ago but - time.
We are also starting Muslim Animal Awarness groups.
Perhaps you might help. REALLY need it.
http://www.afic.com.au/Halal.htm
thank you Jenna for all you do.
My both Gods bless you.
Whatever,
cheer

Hi all

Here's the link to the story containing Nigel Brown's wisdom in handling sheep as they clearly should be handled and the edited paragraph. The whole article is on the lead page at www.liveexportshame.com.

http://www.gulf-daily-news.com/1yr_arc_Articles.asp?Article=143121&Sn=BNEW&IssueID=29051&date=5/10/2006

"Dr Brown said with regards to animals being put into car boots for home slaughter, he said it was actually more reassuring for them to be put in a confined space and have their feet bound, rather than running around alone in a big van.

"How can you handle sheep? Either you are pulling them, or pushing them to get them in there," he said.

"It's common to bind their feet whether in Australia, or Europe. We bind their feet with soft rope so they can lay comfortably."

This was not quoted in any Australian newspapers that I've been able to find.

PALE, according to the AMIEU here, all abattoirs (remaining) slaughter in compliance with halal requirements. But I was listening to ABC Rural News today and they had a rather disturbing story that suggested that Australia would be prepared to change its animal welfare standards in order to conform with "whatever the Muslims want". I understood that to mean that if they say "no stunning" then there will be no stunning.

They also said that each Muslim country has different requirements, and specified Indonesia, Malaysia and Saudi Arabia.

By the way - can anyone tell me why Australian animals are exported to CATHOLIC countries like the Philippines and Mexico? The "cultural requirements" argument doesn't really stand up, does it?

From Jenna

Hello everyone
Does anyone know if there has been an update on this case? Now the government has signed a MoU with LIBYA, of all Godforsaken places, which provides only for the animals to be unloaded into a quarantine facility. No other welfsre measures are in place.
As for Nigel Brown, Jenna, you really wouldn't expect any better from a man who has probably been paid extremely well to tell outrageous lies about the treatment of animals in the Middle East - and one, moreover, who really doesn't give a damn about them. It is interesting to see that that immortal quote never made it to the Australian media though. I'm sure Yabby would agree that such behaviour towards animals is quite acceptable and commonplace though - he probably does all that and more.
Nicky.