Jayb, thanks, sweetie, for that further evidence of how far we ALL have to go, together, as equals, in the pursuit of equal rights for women.

Back to the issues, Poirot :)

Joe

"Back to the issues, Poirot."

Yup.....

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5699&page=0#158724

(Apologies, Joe. I always forget that if there's any diverting to be done, that it has to be in the spirit of ongoing bigotry - and I can never seem to get the hang of that)

Go for it!

(I'm sure Jayb has all the latest dredgings ready to post - sorry for the interruption)

poirot: Forgive me, Jayb...I was under the impression this type of thread was merely an opportunity for you and others to indulge in a spot of dredging.

That may be your impression dear poirot, but it's not the case. The thread is about teaching Australian children the quran in schools. I was only trying to point out exactly what would be taught to Australian children in school as exemplary behaviour. I have not even used the worst examples.

How do you feel about that? Do you want to go back to the dark ages? Do you want children to be taught that women are just meat & owned as one would own a goat? These are things that I seriously considered when answering this question. What I have posted I find abhorrent & not what I would want my children taught in school or anywhere else for that matter. Is the sort of future that you wouldn't mind living in? I don't think so, dear poirot, I don't think so.

The man with the goat, I do believe that he is still married & living with the goat, as also stated.

Thanks, Jayb - the issues.

Poirot, you can flounce east, you can flounce west, but the issues -for our sisters, all of our sisters - will still be there.

Or do I have to write: "I will not be lectured on feminism by this woman !"

- which I would never do.

So do you support equal rights for all women, or for just those fortunate enough to grow up and live under Enlightenment values, imperfect as they may be ?

Over to you.

Cheers :)

Joe

I think it's time we all heard from Iftikhar. What are your thoughts on your post now?

There are some that want the quran taught in Australians schools & some who are opposed. Can you give us a reason why, other than a second language, that the quran should be assimilated in the Australian school Curriculum?

Looking forward to hearing from you Iftikar.

Happy Easter everyone. I'm now off to spend some time with my granddaughter. I look forward to continuing this important conversation when I get back tomorrow night.

Gentlemen,

I've just dropped in to see if this discussion is
still on going. Imagine my amazement at the
current posts. Iftikhar won't be responding.
As csteele pointed out earlier - he never does
(check out his posting history). He only ever posts
one post and then he disappears.

As for all these anti-Muslim rantings.
Why? All because some fundamentalist
spoke about women as "meat.?"

What are you seriously afraid of?

Sharia law in this country is illegal. We do have laws
that protect our way of life and people who break those
laws will be punished, no matter who they are.

As Australian society has become more diverse with
continuing immigration, I would have thought that
expressions of racism in Australian popular culture has
changed over time. Racist language and attitudes that
were common at the end of the nineteenth century are no
longer acceptable one hundred years later.

However, judging from some of the comments on this
discussion it would seem that racism continues to
find expression in new ways, which I guess is reinforced
throughd the popular media where notions of nationhood
are seen as incompatible with diversity.

I'm glad that I left this discussion. I only came back
to check out what was happening and my advice to you
gentlement is - back off, especially in your attacks on
Poirot. Only people of small caliber rant and believe that
they have the truth, and others don't.