Dear Jayb,

Now you're simply stirring.
But OK, I'll bite.

Why on earth would you assume that either Poirot
or myself would want the Quran taught in
Australian public schools? It isn't at present
and it's certainly not something either one of us
is advocating. Read my first post
on this thread. Parents who want their children
taught anything else outside our national school
curriculum are entitled to send their children
to private schools that teach the subjects they
want - be it Muslim Schools, Jewish Schools,
Anglican Schools, and so on.

Neither Poirot nor myself have ever advocated
Islamic fundamentalism. The same as neither of us
would ever support any extremism of any kind.
At the same time we don't believe in taring an
entire group of very diverse people with the
actions of a few - be they Muslim, Christian,
Jew, or any other group.

If you and Joe (Loudmouth) continue with your
attempts to tag Poirot and myself with all sorts
of nonsensical labels - you shall both be
subsequently ignored.

Excellent, Loudmouth.

I see you've retrieved it from where you left it....which just happened to be in Anthony Cox's thread on Australia's hot summers.....

Now if that wasn't a diversion, then I'm a Belgian detective with magnificent moustaches!

: )

Yes, I apologise for mixing my threads. Thank you for pointing that out, Poirot.

Now back to topic.

Lexi,

Nobody is tarring everybody with the same brush - please stop trying to play the 'race' card. Of course, only a minority of any religious group - Christian, Buddhist, Jewish, Muslim - would be fundamentalist in their ideology and 'race' would be irrelevant to any of those trends.

But that shouldn't stop us being concerned about the determination of many of that tiny minority to try to dominate discussion and policy direction, particularly in the fields of education and human rights law, Iftikhar being a case in point. And he would by no means be the most reactionary of the bunch.

Ideology is the issue, Lexi, not 'race', or ethnicity, or language - the ideology of universal human rights versus the various backward ideologies of male domination, conservatism and the prohibition of criticism.

And surely, Lexi, you would support the right of all of us to criticise, to critically examine assertions, etc ?

Love,

Joe

Lexi,

Jayb finds it difficult to debate these issues unless he can construct a strawman. His strawman on this occasion was him "assuming" that because you and I find the sort of rhetoric bandied around on these types of threads unnecessarily hysterical and bigoted, that we support fundamental Islam.

If a poster can't debate without constantly constructing strawmen, it's pointless to engage their questions.

Loudmouth,

But you are tarring everyone with the same brush. This thread like all the others on the subject follows exactly that model. You pull out the nastiest and most diabolical examples and post them as evidence that all Muslims follow that template....if that isn't your purpose, why do you bother to post them?

(Do you often sign off on your posts with "Love" or is that only reserved for the ladies also?)

Dear Joe (Loudmouth),

My apologies if I've misunderstood your
intentions. I just get so sick and tired
of some people not allowing for individual
differences within groups and tarring
everyone with the same brush be they Muslim,
Asylum Seekers, or whatever. Of course we
should be able to discuss a wide variety of
concerns and issues - however when people
don't make a distinctions within the groups -
of say -
Muslims and Islamic fundamentalists - or only
point out the bad things in the Quran
(while neglecting the bad stuff in the Bible) then
that's when I get concerned.

Oh dear, the “Sweetie” tactic offends Poirot, a woman disguised as a man. How mean can you blokes (ie Jayb & co) get? Hey. The mind (or mindlessness) boggles, doesn’t it?

Mustachioed woman, you mention debate, but why is it, you never do? Uh?

These Western so called feminists get so hyped up about the merest of matters, yet they are stunned into docility when the real gritty womens’/girls’ issues of oppression are brought up, especially from the Muslim culture.

The Lexis (Foxys), Poirots and Csteeles completely dessert their sisters. How shallow and flakey can you get. I want to call it a new disease/phenomena of the traitor Western feminists (or not really feminists at all), “Hypocritis” or even better, “Suicider Hypocritis en Femme”.

The archetypal posters above are far too spoilt and just luxuriate in their own pettiness (and ignorance).

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Lexi,

Will you stop calling it racism - it is something far, far more dreadful than that. What a let down for women and our sisters you and your lot really are. And what a screwed up calibre you are (that you invariably bring up on posts trying to assert your superiority). Lexi Pollyanna, sweetness, and silliness, and ultimate status seeker of the ridiculously spoilt and deluded femme bourgeois.

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Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear oh dear. What with the future.