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All poison peddlers need to be held accountable.

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csteele - My answer is easy it has been expressed more eloquently by Froggie just above here, but it is also my answer.

The Gillard Governments proposed laws will kill freedom of speech.

Also what gives Muslims the right to put a death sentence on someone who draws a cartoon they do not like or say something they do not like.

Regrettably free of speech in some instances is already lost in western society, namely America but other countries will follow.
Posted by Philip S, Friday, 8 March 2013 2:26:55 PM
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Froggie: It seems to me that you see very clearly the "hate speech" of the anti-Islamist posters, but not that of the Islamists. Curious, isn't it...

Exactly Froggie. I hit csteel & a few others with this in many different Posts on the same subject every couple of weeks. In fact I'm getting a little sick of these Jihadists supporters. They take advantage of Australia's idea of a fair go & use it against us for their gain. I have know idea why we accommodate their crap.
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 8 March 2013 2:34:07 PM
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Dear Froggie and Philip S,

You claim;

“It seems to me that you see very clearly the "hate speech" of the anti-Islamist posters, but not that of the Islamists.”

Crap!

What a perfect example of an absolute spin on the facts.

I do not support the so called 'Sheik' having the right to send those letters to the widows of our fallen soldiers. You do!

I consider it hateful and deserving of sanction. You don't!

As to your hate speech aren't I utilising “the right to examine them critically and be free to comment in any way I choose about them”?

Dear Jayb,

Got a link for us?
Posted by csteele, Friday, 8 March 2013 3:26:09 PM
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Gday o sung wo, well csteele is no stranger to that part of Sydney.
I got a look myself in my job as union official.
Turned up at the Lidcomh office of the CFMEU, for a combined EBA half wit, that is praising him, ex Secretary would not let me in, so sent delegates in and held a one man sit in , in his main gate.
Had fun! told his delegates as they arrived to tell him I had doubts his mum and dad wed, walked around those streets, shear boredom,and met many nice folk.
But what I thought to be a black letter box, turned out to be an aggressive woman dressed to hide, walked in to me, on purpose, trouble maker.
I just informed her she should move on I would not engage in her spite.
She left, in a street I walked as a young bloke and never want to again, wounder if it was csteele?
Rest mate, this country still produces good men from every ethnic back ground they let us know we are in safe hands.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 8 March 2013 3:48:25 PM
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csteele - quote "Of course there has to be some limitation such as incitement to murder...but I don't think that is free speech in the way it is generally accepted," That part would cover what you say, the letters are clearly the work of an ar*#@**e there are laws in place to deal with that character.
Posted by Philip S, Friday, 8 March 2013 4:02:01 PM
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Mr Steele, you have it completely reversed, and have misunderstood me. I don't support people sending hateful letters to recently bereaved people at all. That is why we have a law concerning misuse of the postal and telecommunication services. As Philip S said, I covered that in my response. I support the Sheik's right to freedom of speech in public, for which I believe that most fair minded people would rightly castigate him.
I accept your assertion that you are in favour of free speech, and I hope you will continue to do so.
You are entitled to examine examples of hate speech critically and be free to comment in any way you choose about them, but you appear (maybe I'm wrong) to want to take that right away from anyone that raises the least criticism of Islam. Bear in mind that it is the ideology of Islam that we are criticising, and also those that advocate it.
Posted by Froggie, Friday, 8 March 2013 4:38:22 PM
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