worldwatcher,

Yes, apologies for taking it personally - thanks for explaining.

It's been a long and somewhat spiteful thread, left me a bit touchy.

Lexi, I'm already there.
I'm just waiting for the rest of you to catch up.

Dear Shockadelic,

No, you're not there yet. You know little about
other ways of life and you don't see your own norms
and values objectively. This can have many
undesirable effects. It can cause hostility and
conflict between groups and it can make people
such as yourself unwilling to see the need for
changes in their own culture.

Once we can learn to better understand and remove
the blinkers of our own culture when we are
looking at another we just may lose a certain
self-righteousness about our own assumptions, and
we may even learn something more about our own culture
as well.

http://www.khilafah.com/index.php/concepts/islamic-culture/14661-innocence-of-muslims-and-the-wests-aggression-towards-islam-a-history-of-bigotry-vilification-and-slander
Just visiting.
My sabbatical continues.
Posting heavy stuff, not content but length.
To show from within this sect how we are thought of.
Shockadelic you best see my view.
Let me however rebut first Lexi.
From very fist post[ trying to avoid fitting csteeles view of this poster] it has been made very clear, this poster wants no comparison to what he believes is a totally different and successful event.
All migration post ww2 bar Muslim migration.
Being flogged with anon existent dead cat, xenophobia towards all, is at best, a tactic.
I note to, and have it under consider ration, post of less than average ability has welcomed my absence.
Harsh and maybe something free speech will not let us fix, but that individual comes only to insult.
Good by to poirot,valuing truth it is not possible to ignore attempts to silence or at least muffle views this poster holds, csteele knows it is the view of this author, he/she confronts western views, truth is to be rebutted and any concerns about these migrants silenced, no way [I] see did it can respect such a person..
Last? a question to Paul, a person of the very left.
If Sir, as is your view, no God exists, *why must we change*
to fit in with the only group of *Migrants demanding by their words and actions we do*.
I thank all posters and a special thanks for those who will not be silenced by the voices of unreason.
Those understand wrongs exist on both sides but that we Australians need no lectures from those who will not see the faults and threats we face.

Dear Belly,

I'd like to respond to your last post
but I'm afraid I don't understand what it
is that you're trying to say. You mention my
name, but I can't make any sense out of what
follows.

Please explain.

Belly, even though as per your usual form, when a question(s) is posted to you, you simply ignore it, I can only assume it is your ignorance of the subject which prevents you from answering.
As for your question to me. You are correct, I am an atheist, yes from where you sit, somewhere to the right of Genghis Khan, you would see me as "a person of the very left." My view of migration is Australia has it right, we do not discriminate on the grounds of race or religion. I do not believe there is any evidence that Muslims in our society, on mass, have an unbridled hatred for the rest of us. Granted, by custom, by language, and by tradition many migrants today are somewhat different to the Southern European and British migrants who arrived post WWII. Prior to WWII Australia's migration was almost exclusively people of 'British stock'. European and British migrants experienced discrimination from native born Australians "W#gs have got all the house" we had lots of abuse to throw at Southern Europeans as we did have for "winging Poms". Given time you will find migrants, if not the the immigrant them self, certainly their children and even more so their grandchildren will fit into our multicultural society. Our society, like any other society, will undergo change over time, with external and internal influences, societies change, this is inevitable. No matter how much an old conservative like yourself tries to resist social change, change is inevitable. I am optimistic that migrants in the long term will enrich our society. Then again Belly, you can runaway to America and join the Amish, although no matter how much the old conservative Amish try it seems their society is changing also.