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In My Country

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"I've always considered you (Belly) a reasonably balanced bloke" Poirot got that wrong, the old Conservative Labor types such as Belly, I find from talking to people when campaigning, are far more reactionary on social justice issues than the average young Liberal supporter. Within the Labor Party these conservatives act as a block to frustrate reform. Always prattling on about the likes of the 'silent majority' and the 'middle ground'. When they obtain power they tend to sell out the mass rather than introduce any real reforms.
With Belly its stuff like, "feminine wishes" = "I (Belly) FEAR THE MINORITY TRUE LEFT" = "I (Belly) fear the ability the few have" Do you fear the likes of Penny Wong in your own party, I know what you think of my friend Lee Rhiannon. I wonder what you will think of Cate Faehrmann when she hits the Senate in 2014! Another bloody feminist.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 9:06:09 AM
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Dear Belly,

Let me make something clear.

There is a widespread, malignant thought form that
'other people are the problem.'

Liberals tend to blame Labor for our problems,
while Labor blames Liberals. The media blames almost
everyone, and almost everyone currently blames
immigrants. Some people are convinced homosexuals
are the problem, while others think single mothers
are the problem. Still others blame religion and so
on. The entire culture has become a blame session.

Yet a healthy, vital society is not one in which we
all agree. It's one in which those who disagree can
do so with respect for other people's opinions and
an appreciation of our shared humanity.

Without personal commitment to the attributes of fair
play and integrity, our country is in grave danger.
Malice and intolerance stalk our society, staking
claim to our minds and not one corner of our social
order is unaffected. This darkness is a significant
threat to our national good because it strikes at the
heart of democracy. Where people are not free to disagree,
there can be no democracy, since that is what democracy is.

We can disagree vehemently yet appropriately. Disagreement
must be respectful or the disrespect itself poisons us
more than either side's position in the argument ever could.

It is more important that we renew dignified and respectful
dialogue with those who do not agree with us than we
keep slavishly congratulating those who have the wisdom to see
things our way.

The tendency on people's parts to think that their way is
the right way and that people who disagree with them are
'bad,' simply has to change. We should not degenerate into
such a mass disrespect for the rights of others to hold
opinions different from our own. While I may not agree
with you at times Belly, I certainly feel that like
everyone else - you are entitled to your opinion. That
goes without saying. You must also recognise that other people
are also entitled to their opinions as well - and the right
to disagree with you.
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 9:38:28 AM
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I want to remind posters you should stand firm.
Be prepared to see the attempts to silence free speech,often wrapped in a niceness that hides its intent.
I glanced at but did not read Paul's waffles.
Giver Lexi the benefit of the doubt.
But poirit? csteele.
Have no doubt.
In answer to the bitter twisted charges against me, racism construction big threads by ? saying what I think!
Not able to be as nice as Lexi requires me, seeing a world they refuse to.
I leave this thread.
IF you have something to say then say it.
DO NOT LINK Paul to Labor, not any of these anti truth views.
After this wreckage, union and mac the knife, not policy,s they beat anything Abbott has.
Debate will not be required, a harsher Australia is on its way.
One uninterested in fair out comes.
I am not alone, this country *MUST DEBATE MUSLIM MIGRATION * DO WE WANT IT*
Difference and enclaves are we sponsoring both.
Is our Social security system a reason for this Migration.
Are those hate filled eyes out side the Lebanese Mosque in Lakember staring at women reporters a good or bad thing.
I retreat, not beaten not even silent.
Mark however LEXIS WORDS
And know I too am able to have opinions even unpleasant ones.
Am I now to bail out of every thread if it looks like too many posts are coming.
I hold deep contempt for the words of csteele and am unprepared to change.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 11:05:14 AM
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Dear Belly,

You wrote; "Csteele even charged me, poirot too, with being here to build my ego".

Can I draw you attention to your post of Tuesday, 1 January 2013 7:31:08 AM.

In it you use the word ’I’ 14 times and ’my’ 10 times.

Mixed in were a few ’me’s and lots of references to ’us’ vs ’the other’.

Your posts are quite ego-centric. You turn everything into the personal and that is part of your problem.

In the Islamic Riot thread I invited runner to take a sabbatical with me but he declined the offer. However in the spirit of the undertaking I decided to only post when he posted. Unfortunately his prolific nature has meant he is well ahead and hardly a curbing influence.

So here is the deal Belly. Starting today I will only post on the OLO forum once for every post you do which contains the words ’I’ or ’me’. Would love to include the word ’Labour’ but won’t.

So you can shut the contemptible csteele up for a month just by ditching two these little words. Call it a Christmas present.
Posted by csteele, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 1:03:01 PM
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Belly, when Cate Faehrmann wins the NSW Senate seat, I for one will be pushing for Mehreen Faruqi to fill Cate's vacant seat in the NSW LC. Shock horror, oh no! a WOMAN, a MUSLIM, a person who is both intelligent and articulate. Such a person can't exist, doesn't fit the Belly mold.
Belly I'm not a defender of the Islamic religion, no more than I defend Christianity. I am interested in your knowledge of Islam and how many Muslims you actually know, would the answer be none. Your knowledge of their holy book The Koran (which you have mentioned in your posts, but most likely never read a word of) are you versed in the teaching of their holy man Mohammad, most likely not. In fact I think all your knowledge of Muslim's may be obtain from your own holy book, The Daily Telegraph. If I am wrong about you, and you are both well versed and knowledgeable of Muslim's and their faith, then please correct me.
p/s Belly never answers these sorts of questions.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 1:31:11 PM
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csteel;e do as you wish, I/ME had left the thread but came back to answer you.
It proves nothing! to tell you what I truly think of you.
BUT this I will say! posters who are unsure about you should return to and read the thread,about that awful woman, convert to ISLAM WHO LIED ABOUT POLICE YOUR WORDS BLACKED YOU IN THAT THREAD.
YOUR THREAD CONDEMNING AMERICA for using drones too gave evidence to the real you.
You have won, I need a spell from OLO, IT IS MY VIEW YOU AND A FEW OTHERS CONTAMINATE IT.
You want freedom to express your views, but freedom too to stop me having the same rights.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 1 January 2013 2:44:05 PM
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