One problem with Christianity is that it makes very extreme claims, the most extreme being the claim that all non-Christians who do not believe in its gospel will spend an eternity in hell in everlasting torment, friends of the devil. To go around proclaiming such a thing to others, threatening them with a literal eternal never ending state of torment is perhaps the most extreme claim in the world. Many evangelical Christian preachers such as Billy Graham, who have the ear of Presidents hold this view. Much of the extreme religious action in the world is propagated by the United States and other so called Christian states. The inevitable consequence of religious bigotry is war. "Any man who believes God is on his side is a dangerous man." be him Muslim, be him Christian.

'One problem with Christianity is that it makes very extreme claims, the most extreme being the claim that all non-Christians who do not believe in its gospel will spend an eternity in hell in everlasting torment, friends of the devil. '

Nothing extreme about the truth that has been preached for around 2000 years. Murdering the unborn is what I call extreme.T hankfully the Son of God offers pardon to those who are humble themselves and repent.

More deaths have come from people who believe their is no god but themselves. Stalin, Mao, North Korea, China and the list goes on.

"Nothing extreme about the truth that has been preached for around 2000 years." Okay Runner if you want to hold those beliefs that's fine by me. Are you one of those Christians who believe the Earth is flat. Until recently Christians believed Hell was a physical place run by the Devil, now some Christians through their Nazi Pope, Ratzinger believe something else, which camp are you in.

Belly,

Looking back through your many posts on this thread (seems to be around 30 odd), I have to say that I've never seen on OLO a more sustained, bigoted and hate-filled diatribe.

It's actually quite staggering, the lengths to which you have gone to inspire division and antipathy toward Muslims.

I've always considered you a reasonably balanced bloke. Considering you started this thread to bag some Muslim for fueling division, it's somewhat extraordinary to find you flinging much more and worse from your OLO pulpit. With that in mind, I think it's a good thing that you aren't in any real position of influence.

You've attacked myself and csteele for speaking out on the side of fairness and tolerance, making out we're somehow supporters of odious practices and the degradation of Muslim women. Lexi was personally insulted big time by one of your chief supporters, and you didn't say a word.

In case you think I'm "trying to shut you up" - I'm not. I'm weary of your argument that any opposition from us is, in your eyes, an impingement on your free speech.

I won't be joining in any of your Muslim denouncing jamborees in future - and I'm now bowing out of this one.

I knew my thread and my posts would bring such insults from csteele and yes from poirot.
I know and knew long ago Lexi was increasingly unhappy with my views.
I even l know how to charm, come on we all do, people and win support.
But that more often than not asks me to become a MODERN MAN I REFUSE.
Refuse.
Refuse for popularity, or support lie, pretend to be some one other than who I am.
You see, unless you are blind, my deliberate heated posts.
Anger rode on my shoulder.
See MODERN MAN is secondary to? feminine wishes.
I FEAR T5HE MINORITY TRUE LEFT.
Driven mostly by females they harm my country and my party.
I fear the ability the few have, to make us the majority think we are lessor for? our opinions they do not share.
Many far better than me, could have crafted a much better set of thoughts than I have.
But the truth can not be hidden, my thoughts,washed ironed and hung out to dry, cleaned of my anger are mainstream ones.
I know Cronulla was after years of taunts and threats.
That it was no worse than the other sides actions.
I know we are hated, here in our land.
That migrants from all over the world think as we do.
I know we are sick of a difference being put to us and requests we fix it.
I have serviced Muslim workers youths in the early twenty,s,seen them defecate on the beds in motels paid for by the boss,to show us skippys .
I have visited a street in Granville Sydney ,sat in front of mythen home.
Thought back at each of 23 homes in that street,remembered every residents name.
And been ordered to leave, by these angry folk.
Walked to my childhood lolly shop, now a TAB, felt the hate in the eyes,the unspoken request leave!
Out side that shop a man, from this community was shot dead one night.
First on scene saw a Muslim man screaming why are we killing OUR BROTHERS
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I am reluctant to start another thread to talk of this, so here it is.
We inhabit, like it or not, the trash talking part of OLO.
Every bright lite that finds its way here leaves.
We are on a slippery slope.
But is leaving the answer, I could name a few here, mostly but not all newbys, who use insults as first option.
And cringe at the death of threads because of diversions.
Here? the left and others are trying to say some speech is forbidden.
That majority views do not count.
We let our selves be dominated by them.
Silence the voices chanting back at us, maybe too from minority's.
*our dead are in heaven yours are in hell*
I AM LABOR!
No way Labor dominated by these left folk can win, no way Labor not balanced by left such as Albanese and Faulkner deserve to win.
Liberals if dominated by the screeching right wingers here will if elected in time be forced both out of office and to reform.
What however do we not talk about? Do we not Challenge the rights religions have to tax free status.
Is it ok to lampoon the Catholic Church but not this one.
Can I both fear and loath the imposition of a never to be mixed culture .
Should we make a list of what the lost left and mad far right do not want us to talk about.
Laconic Australian men, at their side the best thing that ever happened to them great Aussie wives, both may in fact have the very roots of their being in other country,s, should not bend to insults from others or demands we stop having opinions of our own.