David,

<<'ve been naughty and not nice and Santa will be cross next year. I used figures for the Pentecostal and Baptist count to see if you really do know what you are talking about and as astute as you make out.

Obviously you don't and aren't.

The combination is not 900 thousand out of 22 million, the real figure is under 600 thousand. My advice, check all facts, even mine.

Or, did you know and thought why not leave the false figure stand.>>

Where have I stated anything about 900,000 Baptists and Pentecostals? Please direct me to the page on OLO where I stated that.

By the way, if you are going to contest figures, please extend to us the courtesy of giving your links or showing how you arrived at such figures.

OzSpen,

I gave the link in this post.

OzSpen,

“That is changing, as the demographics demonstrate.”

It might be changing but with only a combination of nine hundred thousand in 22 million, you would have to be very optimistic for big change anytime in the future. Be a while before you catch up to no religion and not stated at around 7 million and growing rapidly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Australia#Other

David

I gave that link which has the figures in it and you used that link in a reply to me stating,"Large numbers do not determine who are in God's kingdom." as though you checked it out as you should have.

The information is a little way down under the heading "Religious Affiliation in Australia (1986, 1996, 2006, 2011)

If you did you would have found the discrepancy.

It becomes frustrating conversing with those who continually refer to magic books and formulas. It would be like you or me talking to Harry Potter and asking him to explain how he does it with the wand thing.

There is no magic out there and until you can offer solid proof there is, then modern people are going to shy away from such ideas in ever growing numbers.

I expected you to check what I say but you failed. And in doing so, you accuse me of not supplying the information. A very poor show but to be expected.

David

David,

<<I gave that link which has the figures in it and you used that link in a reply to me stating,"Large numbers do not determine who are in God's kingdom." as though you checked it out as you should have.

The information is a little way down under the heading "Religious Affiliation in Australia (1986, 1996, 2006, 2011)>>

I did not give any link in support of 900,000 Baptists and Pentecostals. I was simply quoting your link to the article in Wikipedia. I said ZERO about support for these figures - ZERO.

Please don't invent stuff about what I say.

>>How many times do you think you've broken the ten commandments? Have you ever lied, cheated, stolen, looked with lust, had sex outside of marriage, hated anyone, coveted anything, put anything before God? Give me an estimate.<<

What does this have to do with depravity? My neighbour Alice - not a real person - is a pagan and prays in front of a little statue. She works weekends and doesn't get on with her parents - three commandments broken. My neighbor Bob - also fictional - is totally crazy and he's never broken a commandment since he was a child. He is so ashamed by his childhood transgressions that he flagellates himself frequently as contrition. He is also a crack-dealing serial arsonist.

Who is more depraved? The idolatrous weekend worker Alice or the crack-dealing, warehouse burning flagellant Bob?

>>Why is it wrong for someone to be tortured forever?<<

Is this a trick question? We are talking about torture here. Surely you can answer that question for yourself.

Unless you can't: I don't know if the Bible condemns torture as sinful anywhere. There's no Commandment against it. And you do worship a God who is supposed to be the source of all that is good and virtuous but who will happily toss people into a lake of fire for eternity if they don't worship him.

If you ask me this God bloke sounds like a real prick.

Cheers,

Tony

OzSpen,

"I said ZERO about support for these figures - ZERO."

Now, now, try and not shout, it is unbecoming.

I used the number of nine hundred thousand and supplied the link. I assumed you would check to see if I was correct with that number as it was obviously wrong. You did not check, therefore I can only guess as to why.

It would have been nice if you checked the numbers and said, Hey, that's not right, you have overstated the numbers.

This is a small point but an important one. You agree to too many assumptions as a character trait. That kind of thinking can lead to one side stories being accepted on the word of others. I prefer evidence.

If an adult believed in Harry Potter's fantastical magical powers without any evidence of how they work, that adult would be classed as immature or delusional. Atheist apply the same criteria on the thousands of religions and their claims of access to knowledge about other kinds of magical powers.

Do you get it now?

David

David,

<<I used the number of nine hundred thousand and supplied the link. I assumed you would check to see if I was correct with that number as it was obviously wrong. You did not check, therefore I can only guess as to why.>>

False accusation again!!

Bye.