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Do we need and inqyuiry in to Union Coruption?

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David you should be concerned about what others think.
Such as Shadow Minister feed on our mistakes.
You tell me, and by inference the greens, care little about others opinions.
Yet just as Labors current problems are doing real damage to the party.
Your sides views are unacceptable to 88 in every hundred voters.
How can your party grow if it knowingly, supports so few,and opposes so many.
It surely is clear, much more can be gained right now, by consensus, and nothing post Liberal victory.
Greens are unable to use this high water mark in their power.
So once lost it never will return.
Staying on subject, the investigation under way in NSW will drench Labor in the filth these fleas made.
Our comeback can not start until true reform does.
Who is not just a little afraid of Abbott as PM?
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 4:49:01 PM
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Dear Belly,

A party can gain votes by telling people what they want to hear rather than what they stand for. That is the way both Labor and the Coalition have gained power. Power gained by betraying a party's principles is the proverbial poisoned chalice. Better not to have power than to lie to get it. If the people do not like what the Greens advocate then we won't get the votes. However, maybe we can wake a few people up to what is happening.

We are concerned about what is happening to the planet and want others to share that concern. To continue the exploitation at the present level and in the present manner is destroying the future. To change lifestyles and habits is not an easy thing. That is what we are asking. We want others to be concerned about the world they are leaving for their descendents. If we soft-pedal that concern to gain votes it is better that we dissolve.

I can't speak for the other Greens, but I would rather stay where we are or fall back rather than make nice and lie to gain power.
Posted by david f, Tuesday, 11 December 2012 5:26:42 PM
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http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/director-at-white-energy-kept-quiet-on-obeids-icac-hears-20121211-2b7wt.html
Unfortunately few read links.
Just as unfortunately few understand the whole issues involved but set out to *inform* others they are wrong.
This link stands out, each of us could do far worse than understand this NSW inquiry.
Yes the hands that took NSW Labor to its lowest, had friends, in high places like corporate lawyers and biggest of big business.
I fear behind the scenes our country is just as corrupt as any third world or middle eastern one ever was.
David this theme needs airing and exploring, far more than your inability to understand politics is about numbers.
About to representing the whole , not minority's within the electorate.
You, in saying as you do, then saying the big party,s lie, are avoiding a truth.
The Greens, by your own words, are an anti Democratic organization.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 6:08:10 AM
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Davidf,

Having read the greens policies, all I see is a collection of populist policies, to give everything to everyone, with little or no indication of how they would be implemented or how much they would cost.

Labor at least tries to cost its policies, but always ends up blowing the budget.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 7:41:30 AM
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It's an ongoing problem isn't it.
Labor spends, Liberals cut.
And so it goes on. However, perhaps I am
naive, but I didn't realise that the role
of governments was to save money. I thought
it was to provide services.
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 8:43:50 AM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

The reality is that the Greens will be very unlikely to ever get into power. I wish they would concentrate on the environment. My hope is that they can make the country sufficiently conscious of the need to avoid destroying the environment that the major parties will adopt better environmental policies. I really don't care for much of the populist stuff or hope the Greens get into power. My hope is that those in power care more about caring for the environment.
Posted by david f, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 8:44:28 AM
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