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Do we need and inqyuiry in to Union Coruption?
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Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 8:50:59 AM
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David, as a fellow Green I could not agree more. Populist politics has its devotees, tell the people what they want to hear, rather than what they need to hear. The Greens as a grass roots party must never fail to listen to the people, particularly those in society who have no voice. We both know the political agenda in Australia is driven by powerful vested interests. For some power is everything and principles mean nothing, the major parties are full of such political animals. Many join political parties loaded up with ideals and principles, but on discovering the reality of the party, either leave in disillusionment, or become one of those unprincipled political animals. As the party political animal are, the more ambitious, the more ruthless, they tend to be the ones who rise to the top. They then go on to steer the party in the direction which best suits them and their cronies, always pandering to vested interests and embracing populism.
"The reality is that the Greens will be very unlikely to ever get into power." We are a relatively new party, still growing and developing. 'never' is a very long time, what is seen as radical today may well find favor tomorrow. This could have been said about the Labor Party in its informative years, a principled party, and very much so, filled with radical members with some very radical ideas. Naturally there were those who said the Labor Party. with that radicalism of their's will never replace the major parties The Protectionist Party or The Free Trade Party. Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 9:21:52 AM
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Dear Paul1405,
I don't want the Greens to get into power. If they do than people will join the Greens as a career choice to get a job, contract or other goody. The Greens will then become as corrupt as Labor and the Coalition. I want the Greens to be a means to arouse concern for what is happening to the planet. If they get into power their main concern will be maintaining power as has happened with Labor and the Coalition. The Greens have been rightly criticised by Shadow Minister for their populist policies. Political parties are a means to an end.My end is to get Australia to adopt good environmental policies. If it does then there will be no need for the Greens as far as I am concerned. Posted by david f, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 10:15:22 AM
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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2012/12/12/15/01/ashby-acted-in-combination-with-others
It would be slack and lack honesty to ignore this link, I give my views about my sides faults,and CONSTANTLY challenge non Labor voters to contribute some things that concern them about thier party. No one ever took up the challenge. This ruling CLEARLY SHOWS A SCANDAL WITHIN LNP NATS and LIBERAL PARTY,S. The only charge that now can be laid against Slipper is his sexuality and he was just like that in his 9 terms as member of the above groups. Those enjoying my forthright views about pure filth in my party should too see improvement needed after this failed trap. Pyne has much to answer for. Lexi, I know how you feel, BUT after others join and demand the changes I do, after our wounds are inflicted, the new ALP that rises will be something to be proud of. I see no need not to vote Labor, not while Abbott is our opponent, but a true need to NEVER STOP asking for accountability. Slippers win says it all, you will hear only more abuse from some here but much dirt needs uncovering, and SM, we need not go back 20 years to find it! Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 2:54:02 PM
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I6 may not be the case for every one.
But in all truth I get no joy in hurting David, and a once mate Paul. The truth however is far different than the story you both tell your selves. Apart from Tasmania, a lost Parliament, in need of? LIBERAL GOVERNMENT FOR TEN YEARS! AND YES i MEAN IT. That great state is hurting, as the wrong ALP leader there gives control to the greens. ALP has always been the party of CONSERVATION . Greens are far more than thaT , BUT ACHIEVE LITTLE. Both greens say they want to get reform, politics is about making things happen not sitting with thumbs in mouth trying to make majority's think like you. Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 3:06:40 PM
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Dear Belly,
What do you know about the following: http://newmatilda.com/2012/12/11/abbott-slush-fund I know that I'll get criticized for quoting New Matilda again by certain people. However, a friend referred me to this particular issue. Apparently it's based on a book by an author - Margo Kingston, "Still Not Happy, John." published in 2007. Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 4:29:43 PM
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I fully agree with your concern about our environment.
This country requires a re-assessment of the
relationship between labour and capital, a re-assessment
which takes into account the politics of industrial
democracy, profit, and long-term planning which allows
for the proper protection and preservation of our
environment. As I've stated previously, the only way in
which the country can work properly is for management and
labour to co-operate with one another, not condemn one
another. However, the sad truth is that condemnation is
the only language that some people appear to understand.