Indy it is my honestly held view from a fair sized field in my years here, you are the most out of his depth poster we ever had.
Rechtub sorry your dad would be too, to hear and see your rants.
I see, have not ;looked yet, a new tax thread bet its rechtubs, innovative way to claim the right to our own thoughts.I surrender, if indys remarks along with yours rechtub are the best we can raise it is obvious we are not interested in tax reform.

Belly, it is my thread, and there is an interesting link I suggest you at least take a look at.

As for me wanting tax reform, yes, I do, but not until the waste is under control, otherwise, any new system will eventually sucome to the same fait as the current system.

You see, we had a workable tax system, but then along came the Rud/Gillard machine and literally blew it out of the water, in less than five years ,as the system simply couldn't keep pace with their waste.

Now the worrying part for me, is that the waste is showing no real signs of being controlled, thanks to this nightmare they have created in the way of the illegals debarcle.

So the question is, do we find a better tax system to feed the waste, or, do we stop the waste, then find a better tax system to feed our people's wants and needs, with the emphasis being on OUR PEOPLE.

However, as I have said before Belly, you think labor's only problem is their leader, when it is common knowledge that any labor leader in today's party is simply a puppet, as their strings are pulled from above.

Now you can remain in denial, as after all, it's a free country, or it was.

As I have said before, we have a foriegn aid budget, and if labor blows the lot on illegals, then so be it.

After all, governments are elected to run the country, not ruin it.

But tell me one thing Belly, why should we go without, and have to dig deeper, simply because your beloved labor party can't control our taxes.

rehctub,
The likes of Belly are the primary cause of anything that's failing in society. They want to better things but only if others take the initiative & put in the effort. By what I read of Belly he's done some work but most of his "working" life was being a Union Rep. So, he doesn't actually know how to make things work, he only knows how to inconvenience the workers by helping them get another 10 dollars a week whilst the prices have gone up 30 Dollars & he still got paid whilst the workers were on strike & got nothing. Yes we're talking about a really caring character here. He doesn't mind 50 Grand a pay rises for useless pollies. He doesn't mind the country going down the gurgled as long as it is Labor doing it. He wants Tax reform by making us pay more. The really sad part is that there are still many Belly's out there & it'll be a long time yet & a lot more suffering for many before they gradually wane. Meanwhile they attack those who care for this country. Just because they don't know what caring means they just get more selfish at the expense of decent people.

The thread has run its course.
No informed and intelligent conversation can be held if the only other contributors are poor old Indy and rechtub.
Just look at indys charges against me.
And let us be honest a review has been done and not fully followed up by Labor.
It is CERTAIN Liberal incoming government, that too is certain, will bring in a total over haul of the tax system.
Here is why I despise the greens!
They in asking for their nonsense policy's,ACTUALLY leave the reforms to that incoming government, beyond doubt harsher than Labors.
I know my words are not nice, but look at the history of INDYS posts ,and those wh0o clashed with him.
Then look at mine, my open warfare on my party, compare Rechtubs post history.
We should openly review our own thoughts often, but to brand me one eyed LABOR is pure blind, well leave it there.
Tax reform is every ones business but understanding should come before commenting.

Ducking and weaving once again I see Belly, threatening to once again take your ball and run.

So tell me Belly, what is unreasonable about my posts. I mean, why shouldn't we quarantine welfare, a move that would allow the tax payers funds to stretch just that bit further, and perhaps just take a few kids off the streets as the welfare dollars being flushed down the toilet, were paid in good faith, to the parents of of these street kids.

After all, all I am suggesting is that welfare not be used for gambling, grog or tabbacco. That's all!

As for tax reform, I am sure even you agree that it would be useless without first addressing the waste.

As I have said,

STEP ONE stop the waste.

STEP TWO reform taxes.

Please, tell me where I am being one eyed or unreasonable.

Just look at indys charges against me.
Belly,
For your info they are not charges, they're observations pretty close to the bone wouldn't you say ?
You can not on one hand promote reform when on the hand you do not accept what's happening.
Reform is not about simply paying more Tax it's about stimulating the economy/work without wasting hundreds of millions on stimulus packages. Now that the money's gone we can't have another stimulus package can we ?