Rechtub please give me details of what fuels are to be taxed because of carbon and when.

rehctub,
I just picked 15% for argument's sake. I mean most of us are already paying more than half of our income in combined tax. You earn a Dollar & you pay so much Tax. Transaction tax whatever you want to call it would fall into this category anyway because in any transaction one is paying & the other receiving, so it's an income or isn't it ?
the bloke who is selling pays the tax because everyone has to sell be it selling your car or your services/labour, you're selling. Get paid $100 you pay tax on it. Getting money is not just receiving money, you've either worked for it or sold something.
Pension, medical/dental, accident insurance all included when you pay tax.
None of this writing off expenses. You want to produce or sell something then do it with the money you have don't make the reset of pay for it. Writing off expenses is what got us into this hole.

Judging by most posts so far we are not going to truely look at tax reform.
We are experts at blaming them, the other side of politics.
And not bad at complaining about paying too much tax now.
WE as expected, want far more from our governments,but not to pay for it.
Rechtub is not alone in wanting less spent/wasted? on the less well of, he has retreated from his often quoted, read his post history, food Coupon's.
Now it is a credit card type food recording system, for welfare recipients.
How many of us understand the results of such marginalization of the unfortunate?
From such uncaring views came Communism, from neglect of the hungry came, read the history, Nazi Germany.
My thread was not to send us all broke.
I had thoughts we could actually tax the rich, and tax us fairly.
I silly beggar that I am, think/thought a day must come, for all our benefit, we control waste in every thing.
Welfare waste is theft, from those who need it.
A willingness to target those most in need is un-Australian.
Tax reforms are going to come, we would be better for understanding that.

Belly, I have NEVER supported food stamps, mainly because they lend themselves to fraud.

I do however suggest a RESTRICTED debit card. One that can't withdraw cash and has certain items rejected at the check out.

Now had this stupid government done this with the stimulus hand outs and, implemented a use by date (use it or loose it approach) chances are, many would not be in the mess they are in today as the BILLIONS that were flushed down the toilet would have achieved something.

Just one single dollar of welfare, wasted on the likes of gambling, grog or tabacco is one single dollar that does not go towards supporting a child. The very basis of welfare.

Not one single cent of welfare is an entitlement (except old age pension) as it is a GIFT and it is a gift, from the tax payer, that should not be allowed to be wasted.

By all means, one is free to waste THEIR MONEY but not the tax payers, as they are entitled to know that their contributions to the needy are not being wasted.

But, above all else, before any real tax reform can be considered, we must get rid of this incompetent, proven wasteful, government, otherwise, it would be like pissing into a fan.

Put simply, they don't deserve to be in office.

Indi, with a TT, money gets taxed, not people, as people can only spend money once.

So effectively, the most you would EVER PAY would be 4% tax (well almost) as you get taxed when your money goes into your account, then taxed when it goes out.

There would be no income tax, so the additional cash would stimulate the economy.

Sure, if you sell something, you pay the tax, but hey, your income increased as well, so what's the problem.

I would really like some input from an economist on this one.

WE as expected, want far more from our governments,but not to pay for it.
Belly,
I beg your bl..dy pardon ? HOW MUCH MORE do you think we should fork out for this useless, incompetent bunch of inadequate individuals ? It's about bl..dy time WE got some bang for our buck. That last parliamentarian pay rise was nothing short of criminal AND YOU supported it. I even started a thread but no takers. Just that pay rise alone could have employed hundreds of ordinary Australians in gainful jobs, instead we got more dumb-crap useless bureaucrats. Don't worry Belly it's not just Labor, Campbell Newman is going down that track too. I only hope someone manages to shake him awake in time. Blue collar workers who do a job get laid off whilst they engage more bureaucrats to "look into it". Shades of Labor.

I would really like some input from an economist on this one.
REHCTUB ! ? Economists ? for crying out loud, they're the ones causing the whole shamozzle ?