Belly, cutting the waste is far more important than cutting spending and, if spent wisely, the money spent can actually be beneficial to all.

A clisic example is the recent propping up of the car industry.

It would have been far better to make locally made cars more affordable, than to make manufacturing cheaper for the likes of ford.

One way would be to offer real incentives for buying local cars, such as fuel discount cards, perhaps even subsidize servicing, by placing highly subsidized apprentices into garages, rather than tafe colleges.

After all, the best way to save ford is for them to sell more cars.

As for welfare reform, it must be quarantined.

I know you keep saying I support food stamps, but you also know thats a fib, as I support a special debit card, one that wont allow waste.

It stands to reason, that if waste is addressed, there would be more to go around.

Belly I think you should seek some medical help. I think you've got acute Abbottisis. It's affecting your judgement in all matters society.
As for Tax just make it 15 % flat tax for every dollar earned. You can call it a TT it really doesn't matter.
I think we all agree that our pollies of every political colour are excessively remunerated for nothing. get their salaries back to floor one, get the public service pay back to a sane level & presto you've got a start to a better life in Australia for many.
As that senior member of the 1940's international political Boys Club would have said "Never before has so much been spent on so few doing so little".

Rechtub you are well aware my thoughts and yours are quite different.
Indy, sorry I am well aware thought is not involved in your posts.
And should stop looking for that, so again will ignore them.
I introduced waste saving to this thread, it was me who targeted welfare waste.
In my view the new Labor that will be born after Gillard drives this one over the cliff will see, waste is not defend-able.
However the facts should be considered, we are not about to re elect Howard.
Abbott is such a man, he proudly, and without need, tells us he knows nothing about economics,first truth his has said.
He intends to tax us, not the polluters to fix carbon emissions.
He wants to tax business to pay high income earners to take six months leave, to have a child!
Look at Campbell Newman, see his acts, the scandals ALREADY.
See Victoria, NSW see our future.
Before blackening tax reform, a thing both sides need to confront.
See the standard of politicians on both sides not the whole but those propping up current leaders, and those two second class never should be leaders.

Belly, who should pay the carbon tax, the generators of fuel, or the useres of fuel.

Surely it's the latter, because if you encourage a reduction in the use, you automatically reduce output, and carbon generation, whereas Gillards solution is quite simply a permit to pollute.

Evidence is in the fact that power stations that were targeted by Gillard to close, obviously feel the tax is worth paying, as they simply pass it on anyway,hence, it's just another short fall in the labor planning camp.

Let's face it, they are hopeless when it comes to administering just about anything.

Indi, a flat tax is nothing like a TT, as it, like any other form of tax, can only collect tax once.

Besides, a flat tax on every dollar is too hurtful to low income earners as they require 100% of their income just to survive.

can only collect tax once.
rehctub,
Provided you don't intend to spend your money yes, but as soon as you spend a buck off comes the tax. The moment a dollar changes hands there is a fee/tax.
It'll be hard to get something out of those feminists though, they only spend a penny don't they ?

Indi, am I right in assuming younare suggesting a tax on spending, not on income.

If you are, it's too high and in any case a 2% TT would raise far more money and have a much broader scope as it collects tax from every single financial transaction.