Shocka and Y thanks blokes, for telling me what we are talking about.
It got a bit hard to know there in the middle.
Y are you enjoying what ever it is.
First post in the thread I think, not sure was mine, so nice to be told what it is about.
Humans then are not one race?
Sorry to hear that thought a chance existed we could be.
Glad to find Christianity is not a religion, bit baffled too.
I will follow and see how far we get to answering the question posed in the title.

This does not actually help, you know, Yuyutsu.

>>There is nothing but God. God does not exist, nor anything else in truth - existence is an illusion, a distorted perception of reality.<<

I note that you here reiterate the notion that there is nothing but non-existence. Which unfortunately renders your next assertion - that existence itself is an illusion - even more impenetrable.

If existence is an illusion, what can non-existence be? Bear in mind that any explanation you come up with, automatically describes God, according to your own determination (I won't insult it by calling it logic).

But the good news is that you have let it be known that somewhere in your thought processes you are aware of something that you call "reality". Of which existence is "a distorted perception".

Are you able to point us towards your definition of reality, in this context? How do you recognize it - you must be able to do so, in order to describe our perception of it as being distorted.

Come to that, how are you able to tell that it is distorted - what are the clues?

I note that you carefully avoided my direct question on whether you exist in a corporeal form. I'm beginning to think that I know why.

Nudge nudge. Wink wink.

No Shockadelic, you are missing my point. It's not atheists who are the major complainants re 'crosses' in public schools, but people from other religions!

They don't want just Christian symbols adorning a supposedly secular school, and I don't blame them.

By the way, I am not an atheist!
I am a sceptic...

Dear Belly,

<<Glad to find Christianity is not a religion, bit baffled too.>>

Worshiping deities (small-gods, including the Abrahamic god) is one religious technique which helps certain people at certain times to come closer to God. It cannot take us all the way to God, but for some it can carry them a long stretch of the way, so I don't wish to discard it.

Christianity has done great things for religion, but unfortunately it did bad things as well, which gives religion and God a bad name. Perhaps Christianity can best be described as a hybrid, consisting of a religious part, a social part and a political part. It is the political part of it which tends to anger others most and make them turn against religion.

Dear Pericles,

As you conclude yourself, no words can describe Reality, so I won't try.

<<Are you able to point us towards your definition of reality, in this context?>>

Reality of course, is not a definition. To point at Reality, perhaps I can, if I'm good and spiritually evolved enough to guide others, but not in words. I can suggest practices that may help you over time to perceive Reality undistorted, but it takes work and dedication, not just words.

<<How do you recognize it - you must be able to do so, in order to describe our perception of it as being distorted.>>

Partly by my own direct experience (which is subjective), partly by scripture and partly by listening to living teachers.

<<I note that you carefully avoided my direct question on whether you exist in a corporeal form.>>

I've just been asked so many questions today that I'm well behind in my work. Do I exist in a corporeal form? I do not exist in any form, corporeal or otherwise. I know myself beyond existence, but that would make no sense to you until you experience it yourself.

Just an observation:

Most of us debating on OLO do so from the vantage point of our egos. We feel compelled to defend our point of view and/or to swagger our way through, often employing a condescending manner towards our opponent.

I'm not sure I understand entirely where Yuyutsu is coming from, but I note a distinct lack of egoism and arrogance in his explanations - most unusual to say the least....and quite refreshing, in fact!

Sorry Poirot, my fault.
See I am just an average bloke, haveng very real trouble following Y in this thread.
Have found him an interesting contributor before this.
I am to blame, my thoughts on starting this thread was to talk, and even learn , about why some do need a God.
And some never will.
I have thoughts that God is our invention, not me and you, but wise if not nice men from our past.
Who put together a plan to control us and enrich them selves.
Such folk exist today, my worst example are ALP power brokers.
Ego? any one know anyone without an ego? dead are they?
Can I ask why the wars?
Why so many Gods?
How do we exclude any of them.
Truly, could we ever be one humanity without them?
Or if we invent one,suppress the others, in how many generations would we be one humanity?
Is being one a worth while thing?
I have enough trouble speaking my own language and have no idea what Y is trying to say.
Again my fault without doubt.