Dear Pete,

I acknowledge that you haven't said such things on the violent side, but your friend "579" did, so I was simply enquiring whether or not you hold similar views to his. I am glad you don't!

I am not a creature. My association with a creature (a homo-sapiens, so it happens to be) is of a very temporary nature, rarely lasting over 100 years. My body is mortal, my memories are mortal, but that has nothing to do with who and what I am.

If you want, I have no objection to a civilised discussion on the points you raised, just please not at this uncivilised time of night.

Just saw your new post, please rest assured that I am not among those who object to education, science, knowledge and freedom. None of those clashes with religion.

Yuyu, you are 100% "creature", just like every other living thing on this planet.

You are 100% mortal. You are not immortal, nor are you supernatural.

When you die you will not come back, nor will you live on.

Death means death.

These are the facts.

You are also 100% entitled to believe in any superstition you wish to embrace, regarding your perceptions of mortality and immortality, or anything else whatsoever.

Y R U OK?
Seems to me some one different is posting in your name.
Never had any trouble following you before.
Did you read the link?
How did you get the word dietys,not Gods out of it.
Do you think just a little,your words do little to support any God?
What are we to think of the other 4.199 Gods?
What do you think of them, remembering current thought is freedom to follow your own God is assured?
If we invent many more Gods we can have 5 for every day of the year and are serve bench in case of injury,s.

>>Does 'knowledge' accommodate anything but that particular part of objective knowledge that can be ascertained by scientific empirical evidence?<<

Yes. Knowledge gained through science is a posteriori but you can have a priori knowledge. Consider the following claims: all bachelors are unmarried; cubes have six sides; if today is Tuesday then today is not Thursday; red is a color; seven plus five equals twelve. I have good reasons for thinking each of these claims is true, but the reasons do not appear to derive from experience. Rather, I seem able to see or apprehend the truth of these claims just by reflecting on their content.

>>Does 'science' accommodate non-empirical science?<<

There isn't any non-empirical science Yuyutsu. If it's not empirical it's not science: it's some variety of philosophy - another example of a priori knowledge.

>>Does 'education' accommodate any teachings that are not based on empirical science and objective information?<<

Yes. They're referred to collectively as the 'humanities' or the 'arts' and include disciplines such as art, theology and literature.

>>Does 'freedom' accommodate the freedom to worship, follow and live by what either doesn't exist or is deemed by yourself or by the regime of the day as non-existent?<<

You don't have the same constitutional protection of your beliefs that you would in the US but Australia's track record on this matter speaks for itself: we are an extremely tolerant society where people are free to worship as they please without fear of government persecution.

>>Or are the above to be surpressed in your ideal world and their practitioners jailed, tortured, killed or forcibly brain-washed in secular re-education camps?<<

No. And the only person who has suggested that they be or would seriously entertain the idea is you. What's up with that? Are you a self-hating New Ager?

Cheers,

Tony

"My body is mortal, my memories are mortal, but that has nothing to do with who and what I am."

Nothing? Really? Surely it might have something to do with it - could your memory be playing tricks?

I am an aggregation of quantum mechanical electron cloud probability densities... pleased to meet you.

Yuyutsu, merely for my own satisfaction, could you please reconcile for me these two statements that you have made on this thread.

>>There is nothing but God<<

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5473#149564

>>Have I not made it clear that God does not exist?<<

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5473#149748

In my simplistic, chemical-free brain, this equates to:

"There is nothing but non-existence".

If you believe this - and I actually suspect that you do - can you enlighten us as to how you are making these views known to us on this thread?

I have tried to visualize a non-corporeal energy force that causes messages to form themselves, but my poor imagination keeps falling short.

Any assistance you could give would be greatly appreciated. I guess it would help first of all if you were to let us know whether you have a corporeal existence or not.

On this planet.

Or even on this plane.