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Religion do we need it?

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Not for me, i see no benefit in religion at all. The world would be a better place without it.
The sauce of conflict and hatred.
Ancient ideas and ancient ways.
Kids are born with a predetermined religion, where's the choice in that.
The churches have disgraced themselves, and needs to be disbanded.
Posted by 579, Saturday, 17 November 2012 7:10:06 AM
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no one seems to define religion. Everyone has faith in someone or something. The atheist has great faith in their dogma. They call it science but really it is fantasy. To deny one's Creator is blindness while to reject one's Saviour is stupidity.
Posted by runner, Saturday, 17 November 2012 7:32:02 AM
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the moral outrage against the Catholic church and other molestors demonstrate clearly that we are moral creatures. It shows that even god deniers have a conscience despite the conscience being seared. Those who reject God can't help but form their own morals ( usually consisting of immorality). Without God morals we have no right to tell others that child abuse is wrong ( as it is cultural in many places), that killing is wrong etc. We are left with every man doing what is right in his/her own eyes. That is why secularist can murder the unborn, commit adultery, fornication, practice homosexuality, lying etc etc and really have no compass to know their actions are even wrong. People who claim they don't believe in god usually put themselves in the chair as god picking and choosing what they think is right and wrong usually with very sad outcomes (murdered babies).
Posted by runner, Saturday, 17 November 2012 7:41:57 AM
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*They call it science but really it is fantasy.*

Funny that Runner, but a scientifically designed 747 tends to work
better than the priestly magic carpet.
Posted by Yabby, Saturday, 17 November 2012 9:35:24 AM
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Runner is a good example of why people no longer believe,and a replica of the person who showed my me faith was wrong.
We nearly all of us, have lines we will not cross, they came from religion.
Why not replace the religion with our own charter to live by.
Then ten commandments could well be 25, a list of mans most used moral fences.
Remember, as it is now,some will climb the fence or push it over.
How would we do this, well tax Churches, take the massive fraud in Islamic education, millions given by us all, transfered to the head Islamic council.
In the name of a God.
Catholic CoE Child sex scandals, in the name of a God.
Humanity needs to be one, but inclusive,in most things not possible if we let rules that divide us in the name of many ONE TRUE GODS.
Yes some need God, a new one is invented nearly every decade, why not use the list of 25 as a new foundation one God.
IF aliens ever land, if they already are known, Governments will, maybe have, covered it up.
Because of its impacts on belief, a controlling influence.
A fear probably wrong, that we could not handle the truth.
The evolution of man includes a move away from conventional God, but in some parts of the world the growth of the most dangerous one.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 17 November 2012 11:02:49 AM
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http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/06/16/the-yearly-cost-of-religious-tax-exemptions-71000000000/
OK link is American, but anyone care to challenge the figure, of tax free gifts we all pay for.
What is the total world cost?
Australia,s?
Yet what is, IF no God exists THE OTHER COSTS?
A section of our community's think it is OK to sit and wait for God to fix every problem.
Even here see runners words in another thread re child abuse, what are the costs of waiting?
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 17 November 2012 4:06:43 PM
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