http://freethoughtnation.com/contributing-writers/63-acharya-s/479-richard-dawkins-islam-is-one-of-the-great-evils-of-the-world.html
I do not post this link to inflame.
I post it as I have with every link, to add to the debate.
Add too evdence the views that see most, repeat most of us, branded are minority ones.
Of interest is this, the author is well known not to believe in Christianity, But I doubt his life would be threatened.
A long but informative link, it backs early posts from Kactuz, in simply pointing at? the holly book of these folk, to find reason to be concerned.

Belly, an interesting link and I like the quote below:

*I think in a way we are being too nice. I think that it's possible to be naively overoptimistic, and if you reach out to people who have absolutely no intention of reaching back to you, then you may be disillusioned.*

Perhaps that is what will one day happen to some of our presently
naively overoptimistic posters.It seems that people need pain to
learn the hard way.

Oh, Poirot. You haven't said anything about Muslim hate ? No indeed. I think most of us have twigged that you will twist and turn, go on about British oil companies in Iran, or shoe sizes, or anything except the topic.

Which is about Muslim riots. At bottom, about the Sixth Pillar - jihad against the West, the Renaissance and the Enlightenment - and the Caliphate.

Versus free speech, equality and the rule of law. You've shown what side you are on, dear. Is this what the left has sunk to, the uncritical support of reaction ? What a pity.

Obfuscation 0, Freedom of Discussion 1.

Cheers,

Joe

Yes indeed yabby.
I have clashed with many over the years, some true hard days around the animal welfare debates.
I greatly respect and like Poirot and Lexi, have fallen out with both over boat people.
But never before questioned myself this much, over Poirot, I like her.
But no, can not see the abuse she claims she is getting.
I do you know, review my words, know some are sharp, but think she is holding her breath and stamping her feet, because I refuse to back away on this issue.
Well over half our country agrees with me.
csteele, well the threat to shout at me, is are here in print, as has some true gutter tactics aimed at my honestly held views.
We can not avoid our fate, we are indeed as a result of our kindness going to suffer greatly.
No way around it, hundreds of such threads exist,the western world, given a chance, would in time take back its efforts to be too kind to some who would not do it for us.

Hi Belly,

I fully agree.

Slightly off-topic, somebody sent me a list of Nobel Prize winners, Muslim and Jewish. On the Muslim list, I noticed the name of Sir Peter Medawar, colleague of Sir MacFarlane Burnett, pioneers in transplant research.

I checked him out on Wikipedia and lo and behold:

"Medawar was born on 28 February 1915, in Petrópolis, Brazil (a town 40 miles north of Rio de Janeiro) of a British mother (née Edith Muriel Dowling) and a Lebanese father, Nicholas Medawar, who was a Maronite Catholic."

So no, he wasn't Muslim. Okay, what did he say about religion, as a scientist ?

"... I believe that a reasonable case can be made for saying, not that we believe in God because He exists but rather that He exists because we believe in Him...

"Considered as an element of the world, God has the same degree and kind of objective reality as do other products of mind...

"I regret my disbelief in God and religious answers generally, for I believe it would give satisfaction and comfort to many in need of it if it were possible to discover and propound good scientific and philosophic reasons to believe in God...

"To abdicate from the rule of reason and substitute for it an authentication of belief by the intentness and degree of conviction with which we hold it can be perilous and destructive... I am a rationalist—something of a period piece nowadays, I admit..."

Wow, that would get him beheaded, if he really had been a Muslim at some time. Lovely man.

Maybe it doesn't fit on a placard, but I'd go with it.

Joe

Belly I agree with you. I am sure that both Poirot and Csteele are
lovely people, but clearly they are not the first Australians to
be naive about how the world works. We live in a fairly protected
society here.

I remember a friend signing a contract to buy fertiliser from the
Chinese. The world price then went up and he thought he had been
clever, until he wanted delivery at the agreed price. Which contract?

Reading "23 Years", which is about Muhammed's life, you get an idea
of what Islam is really all about. Whilst the early Muslim army
raided camel trains, a couple of Jewish tribes were farmers in the
area and considered the Arabs lazy. Muhammed eventually wiped both of
them out. When asked by his followers to justify his actions, down
from the heavens came a verse basically implying that the end justifies
the means.

So I think that Dawkins is pretty spot on in his analysis.