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Posted by SPQR, Friday, 29 June 2012 11:15:52 AM
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SPQR,
That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me. Cheers yourself : ) Posted by Poirot, Friday, 29 June 2012 11:24:33 AM
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Dear SPQR,
Any system can be rorted. However is it fair to taint an entire group because of the actions of a few? That would be like saying that all Australians are racists, that all Muslims are fundamentalists, that all Collingwood football players are hoodlums, that all conservatives are stupid and so on. BTW - if you don't like the links that I provided do your own research - as I stated earlier - there's plenty of links on the web. It is important on these issues to sift the misinformation from the actual facts. And misinformation regarding asylum seekers abounds and is accepted by the political conservatives and politicians who want to play the political game to score brownie points by playing to people's fears. Posted by Lexi, Friday, 29 June 2012 11:31:23 AM
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@Lexi,
<< misinformation regarding asylum seekers abounds and is accepted by the political conservatives and politicians>> Now who’s generalizing ? <BTW - if you don't like the links that I provided do your own research>> OK, here’s a much more informative link: http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/they-come-on-one-way-tickets-speak-no-indonesian/?from=scroller&pos=5&referrer=home&link=text Posted by SPQR, Friday, 29 June 2012 11:42:55 AM
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Banjo, sorry old mate! but I have bad news for you.
I have every right to my views,as you do yours. For give me, but why did you not ask why I too am just as unhappy with Gillard. A telling question. AH bloke, can you tell me why 60% of us in her case and 58% in Abbott's case think they are not doing a good job? Are you going Green on me? Trying to impose your minority views on me? Abbott can not be trusted, he is on record admitting he lies. He also has held EVERY sides views on Carbon tax, if he is right, Sunday will see some catastrophes. Whyalla will disappear from the map, coal mines close down. The bloke is an idiot and a lier. Without an upper house we would this morning have law stopping the drownings. NSW would not have shooters in National parks because two? 2? overrule an elected government. My sin Bazz? big one mate! My words represent those of majority's not minority's. Abbott should be first to step down Gillard next and every greens voter should ask is death better than a law the majority want? Posted by Belly, Friday, 29 June 2012 11:50:16 AM
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Belly,
You avoid the issue of course. And I certainly not going green on you as I consider them idiots and useless as tits on a bull. But Labor preferences put them in the Senate. The greens are Labors coalition partners. But the point is the greens are sticking to their policy (no matter how stupid) and the LIbs are sticking to theirs, which has a proven record. It is Labor, under Rudd, that changed the game and Gillard has prelonged it. They both claimed that they would stop the boats coming and in fact have encouraged them. Rudd is very quiet on the issue and Gillard wont admitt to lieing and being wrong. Yet they can change it immediately. You agree that the illegals are shonks and should be stopped but your shots are aimed at the wrong target. Do not try to introduce the strawman of state issues into this debate. I submit that the greens and Labor do not care one iota about the deaths let alone our right to choose who comes here. Gone are the days when Labor deserved respect, Rudd and Gillard have seen to that. Posted by Banjo, Friday, 29 June 2012 12:54:02 PM
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<< The above facts come from the Department of Immigration and Citizenship, the Refugee Council of Australia, and from the Red Cross>>
Mostly from the Refugee Council I’ll bet!
These are the same old lies we’ve been fed for decades. Sorry they won’t wash anymore.
See points 1 & 2 below:
1) “ Once an asylum seeker is recognised as a genuine refugee, after a long and highly scrutinized process”
2) “ To get a permanent residence as a refugee, the person has to prove they are a genuine refugee fleeing persecution, go through character, security”
Ok, if it was/is a “HIGHLY SCRUTINIZED PROCESS” & they need to “PROVE THEY ARE FLEEING PERSECUTION”
How did Capt Emad and at least seven of his confederates get past it?
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@Poirot,
Agree with you on one thing at least.It's a fascinating subject.
Sounds like you're having a bad day (or had a rough last night).
Cheers