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Social Welfare and boat refugees

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We have all received them.
The heated red neck e mails quoting unbelievable amounts given to these folk.
What is the truth.
Do they really get so much more than Australians?
What is the average time spent on welfare.
Is it true an over Representative number never find work.
Can it be true SOME have had 5 even many more Children but never got off Social security?
Is it possible that our Social security alone is a magnet for these boats?
What are the costs over all watching for boats saving people in trouble housing settling, and maintaining Social Welfare?
Would it be cheaper to donate directly to the home lands to create better living conditions?
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 5:18:54 PM
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Yes a strange question.
Some may think one aimed at being a bit bigoted.
But we cut, in hard times, our donations to needy country's this year.
How much is this costing? is the money well spent?
The subject, every part of it, is bound to be heated.
And lies are currency when we talk of it.
But figures from $3.000 to $10.000 are said to be paid to criminal people smugglers.
What about the starving and dieing in Africa and other places ?
They may in a whole life time never see that much money.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 11:23:36 AM
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Belly, you label those who quote the 'unbelievable amounts' as 'red necks', yet you are questioning it yourself and asking for the truth.
Doesn't that make you a red neck too?
Posted by Austin Powerless, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 2:04:48 PM
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The big problem is the lack of transparency around immigration, nobody knows how a refugee mother of six on welfare can afford a brand new ford Territory or Rav 4 , this leads to speculation about who might be guaranteeing the loans or if indeed this is just a case of loan sharking or other financial exploitation of gullible newcomers.
The same can be said about the perception that immigrants commit more crime than natives, rumours are rife and people have a lot of fairly stupid ideas on the subject because the authorities keep the statistics secret.
That's the other nasty aspect of the PC and academic establishment, it's secretive and won't release any information which might contradict the orthodox, egalitarian dogma of "Diversity is strength!".
As in the first post of this thread people who have negative opinions of refugees are automatically assumed to be ignorant Bogans but the fact is that even if it's an accurate description the fault still lies with the PC and academic establishment as they are the ones depriving "Red Necks" of accurate information and making it nigh on impossible to have a properly informed opinion on the subject.
Pro Refugee citizens are in the same boat as the "Bogans", they have no more information than anyone else with which to back their case and are reduced to the same ill informed and emotional reactions as the people they deride as "un-educated Red Necks".
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 2:34:28 PM
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Love your work, Jay. You put it beautifully, I wonder if the op is intelligent enough to know when he's been told, hahaha!
Posted by RawMustard, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 7:32:39 PM
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I agree with Jay, there is insufficent information from official sourses and this leads to speculation about what refugees receive.

It does make one wonder when you hear of a recently arrived refugee owner/driver of a taxi in Melbourne and you know taxi plates cost a lot and how could he possibly get a taxi licence if he has only been here a short time. One of the persons in the recent 4 corners show, that was paying the smugglers to bring his brother here, lived in a two story 'mac mansion'. How come if he has not long arrived. How did Cptn Emad get 3 public houses for he and his family?

The government should be more open about exactly what assistance pending and approved refugees get.
Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 9:09:05 PM
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