Danielle,
you're bringing up a past of when people simply looked for a better life. There was no agenda then.

Dear Belly,

I am surprised that you've taken offence at
my post. It was not directed at your opinion
or meant to be any sort of a criticism of
your views. I respect your views. I was merely
trying to point out that the sooner our
politicians can put their political agendas
aside - the sooner they may be able to achieve a positive
outcome for all concerned.

Anyway, I shall now go and ponder what I could have
said differently so that I wouldn't be misunderstood
in the future.

Individual,

I could possibly be naive ...

Non-white migration is not new in Europe, with generations now integrated well. However, what we are seeing is an entirely new scenario.

It can be laid entirely at the feet of the PC brigade, who have privileged a group of people above the wider society. The result was confusion to most migrants, and opportunism and entitlement seen by others who pushed very hard.

The backlash was inevitable ... many saw this occurring. The situation is indeed grim.

Lady's and gentlemen please understand I rarely intend to offend, but I do,and for that I am sorry.
No gain comes from deliberately doing that.
But non too from hidden my views.
Let me divert this thread briefly then return to subject.
This mornings polls are clear,Labor,wounded in my state by not enough with the guts to take them on over the last 3 years of DREADFUL HORRIBLE GOVERNING.
Is still on the nose,once the power house ,we installed Rudd, we are but a tent flapping in a storm.
QLD, tainted by one election win too many, one wrong leader ten useless self servers in a lost government, will not win a seat, in its self take federal Labor from power.
Then add Rudd, tell me, who knew he was to be unseated over night?
Who of us who are stricken by fear at the thought Abbott will become Prime Minister or his replacement,still think SUSSEX STREET BETRAYED US
Labors task is not to further marginalize its self.
Not to be the best opposition and longest we ever had.
Not to protect Gillard.
Not to tell 55% of voters we know better.
Right now lies are selling for Abbott like hot cakes.
Once 74% said we need action on carbon, today on just this issue we are about to be thrown out of office.
If you want Labor re elected SHOUT!
Dump Gillard now
Re call Parliament, take those amendments tell the world it will not work.
Watch it not work, while waiting for the report wedge Abbott.
Push the greens away from my party's breast, they can not live without our blood.
Teach them power is useless unless used in a good way.

Here is how I see this issue boat people/refugees.
We to talk of it should leave our biases in the bucket at the door, notice it is a very big bucket.
Lets also forget fairness and equity, humanity and pain and suffering.
Now why would I say that?
Australia can not fix the worlds problems.
Not even our own.
In praise of both the last government and this we are usually the worlds third biggest in-taker of refugees.
Who, forget children over board sev x, does not understand, right or wrong John Winston Howard won an election by understanding this country better than Labor on boat people?
In your realistic view can Labor not stop the boats and EVER WIN AN ELECTION?
We are talking about this if we fail its Conservatives/Liberal policy's we install by our failure to move toward the Australian people.
Why are we not talking costs,we could pay for dental care mental health care and house the homeless with change from mandatory detention cost.
And in truth MALAYSIA ENDS THE BOATS AND DETENTION.
We may send four times 800 take four times 4.000 but we would stop it.
We then get to take more but say who what skills what chance of settling here.
Love all boat people but hear too the voices driving this country toward Long term Conservative government will leave a shattered mess the ALP on the beach trying to find enough who will rebuild the party.
My ALP must rebuild before that wreck dump the woman, pass Abbott's amendments distance our selves from greens,a party that will destroy all but conservatives by its dysfunctional blind stupidity.

Non-white migration is not new in Europe, with generations now integrated well.
Danielle,
Hmmh,
perhaps you know more than the people I speak with & who live there. I even recall from a few decades ago that the then immigrants have integrated well. But I'm not referring to them, I'm referring to the now influx. Where the wasn't an agenda there is one now & that is the disconcerting episode of the show.
The new influx has nothing to do with seeking a better life on the contrary.
Many simply don't comprehend the real scenario & when one tries to enlighten them they reject the explanation due to sheer ignorance. You see much of the problem is within.