Thanks yabby, it took a post like that to take the bad taste of the one above away.Abbott? you know you can tell when he is lying.
His Lips Are Moving!.
Belly,
Your inferences are out of order. Get a life you...

I wanted to throw a shoe at the screen too Yabby. The Greens solution is limitless, idealistic nonsense. Howard's legislation won't work (never did) and the Malaysian solution will if given a chance.

Greens have to decide whether the guaranteed 4% drowning rate will remain or whether asylum seekers might be safer in Malaysia being processed then resettled here or elsewhere safely.

Why Greens don't make the right decision while suing for a higher refugee intake from the camps of the world, as Abbott suggested (as a bribe for their support of his legislation), is beyond me. That way they win something for refugees instead of maintaining the deadly status quo.

To add to my last post, Greens have now handed government to the coalition at the next election and will finish up getting Howard's legislation. This is because, with Labor's vote split to the Greens, only the the coalition can claim to be able to attain a majority to govern in its own right and to address the issue, which the vast majority of Australian's want resolved and will vote accordingly.

Christine Milne and Greens, congratulations on your juvenile piousness. It will be your destruction at the next election and reinstate the most inhumane border control policy ever dreamed up by a modern first world country.

reinstate the most inhumane border control policy ever dreamed up by a modern first world country.
Luciferase,
What'ts the policy re boat people on your planet ? Maybe us earthlings could use your ideas.

Border Protection - Australian Style

A group of friends went hiking.
One had a map but no one wanted to see it.
They came to a river and before deciding to
cross they camped overnight.
Next morning they couldn't agree where to cross.
Floods came, winter came, snow came, but still
they could not agree.

Last time we heard they're still camped by the river.

individual, thank you for asking me that question.

To jog your memory regarding Howard's legislation,
http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/11/07/the-consequences-of-turning-boats-back-siev-towback-cases/

At that link you will find details on the SIEV's. Read about SIEV 4, amongst others, then read the following extract from the log of HMAS Adelaide, as tabled before a senate committee on 21 February 2002, regarding that vessel:

6 October [2001]

1813 First warning given to master of vessel.

7 October [2001]

0153 Second warning issued.

0216 Boarding party ordered by Commanding Officer to prepare to board SIEV-4 when vessel enters Christmas Island Contiguous Zone.

0258 Adelaide made close pass down SIEV-4 starboard side.

0335 Adelaide directed by CJTF to conduct a positive and assertive boarding.

0402 Warning 5.56 mm (cannon) shots fired 50 feet in front of vessel.

0405 Warning 5.56 mm shots fired 75 feet in front of SIEV-4.

0409 Warning 5.56 mm shots fired 50-100 feet in front of SIEV-4.

0414 Boarding party advised by CO that if 50 cal machine gun warning shots do not stop vessel, boarding party is to aggressively board SIEV-4.

0418-0420 Twenty-three rounds of 50 cal (20 rounds of automatic fire) fired in front of SIEV-4.

0430 Close quarters manoeuvering by Adelaide, SIEV passed close astern to Adelaide port quarter and reduced speed/took way off momentarily.

0432 Boarding party issued final warning (to SIEV) indicating that if they did not allow boarding party to board, Adelaide would not let them enter Australian waters.

0442 Boarding party effected a conducted non-compliant boarding of SIEV-4.

0445 Boarding party in control of SIEV-4.[1]

On my planet, individual, the policy is not to use arms on the high sea to stop or turn back unsafe boatloads of people who we know have no intent but to seek asylum by reaching Australian waters. That was wrong, both because it was inhumane and because it compromised our navy, and that is why it was stopped.

Having said that, asylum seekers who were desperate and enterprising enough happily went to offshore or mainland detention under Australian protection. TPV's? Easy, just bring the wife and kids.