Don't worry, Paul,

If all of Australia's welfare recipients were egotistical clapped-out braggarts obsessed with cars, they'd have Hasbeen's wholehearted approval to live amongst the rest of us.

Posted by Belly, Saturday, 2 June 2012 4:46:19 AM

" ... and Rechtub, from so far right he can not be seen. ... "

That gave me such a giggle *Belly* so I just had to repost it.

" ... Paul 1405! if only! if we could kill the fraud, get some returns in the form of truly paid and earned work. Just maybe we could spend part of our savings helping those in true need. ... "

How do you know that we are not *Belly?* A mate who was at one time with the Aust Feds for an extended period also worked as the liaison to Centrelink and I have heard a yarn or two about some of the busts. Rest assured, that they may not have caught out everyone, as in most areas of crime, but they are working on it, and increasingly with data matching between departments, the net is getting spread wider and wider.

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It is impossible for me to take some of the red knecked commentators seriously as they offer nothing other than distorted, ill founded opinion. Clearly they have not read the law and nor do they understand the mechanations of the system.

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If you consider this issue more broadly, then to me one of the important things that must be done is to get rid of the tongue tied, genocidal, tourist muppet, bludging head of state.

(I've just been reading the account of some poor soul with a serious condition who has had her medication taken away from her, who has been provided with something else which isn't working, who is now freaking out and her filthy pom doctor won't put her back on it on the account of cost, (a standard practice in england I'm told) whilst currently we have to put up with watching millions if not more been blown on that wretched old hag and her pitiful little party.))

No, I am not in favor of "work for the dole" per se and a second class work force, but would prefer sucking the fat out of the ass of the establishment/top end of town and making sure everyone has a job with a living wage, except for those among us who do truly require special consideration.

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I was on the p!ss with the boys last night. One mate, a building surveyor, only worked a half day yesterday, as usual, and for that, received a cool $AU10,000.

A vote for the noalition will only further entrench this sort of parasitic behavior as they appear to think that it is right that some should have $ in gross excess for doing very little, whilst others should have not much for doing a whole lot.

Its human nature!
We have circled the verbal wagons.
Sent scouts out to bring back prisoners, to support our views .
No compromise here! no solutions to the problems.
We in fact would rather fight about if its a problem or an epidemic!
Rechtubs troop, Hasbeen, maybe Dream On? not sure what he thinks, say it is every day practice for every one on SS.
Paul/Poirot, seem to defend the good, and Dennie the existance of the bad and the very ugly.
How dare I! a product of a hungry childhood, a kid who wanted so much, but asked for treasure, a job!
Ask that council jobs, Forrest jobs, new economy jobs created for cleaner air, be reserved, and given to unemployed rather than dole.
And dare I? a trade unionist! say the jobs should be meaningful, product, paid properly, living changing , and no safety net for those un willing to take them?
Out side any city, even town ship fibro cottages exist hopeless unemployed live in them.
We can, if we wish, do better.
Sorry to re enforce the sexism subject, it was not me that put it on the table.
But yes bad men exist, face it so too do bad women, some openly tell husbands of many years they are not the father of the children
Sexism in this country is two sides not just men.

Belly......No compromise here! no solutions to the problems.

Belly, a huge part of the problem is waste. Like it or not, millions, if not billions of welfare dollars gets wasted each and ever year, dollars, that were intended to help those in need, mainly children, not intended to provide entertainment for the parents, many of whom are simply irresponsible, which is often why they either can't find a job, or, can't hold one.

Many don't want a job as it means making a commitment, or even getting off the drugs.

Many work one or two days for cash and in the end are better off than many workers, most of whom don't get rent relief, don't have a health care card, and dont get Ted travel.

The who system is upside down if you ask me.

Welfare is a helping hand, not a lifestyle choice.
We in fact would rather fight about if its a problem or an epidemic!
Rechtubs troop, Hasbeen, maybe Dream On? not sure what he thinks, say it is every day practice for every one on SS.

Many don't want a job as it means loosing their benefits, or at least a portion of them.

It's a sad sad world, when one, by simply having children, or shaking up with a person who has children, can weigh up the odds between finding a job, or staying at home.

Now I don't blame them, as much as I blame the system.

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But the reality is, welfare dollars are not a bottomless pit of money and, as someone said earlier, $17 a day is new start allowance.

So, for every $17 that is not wasted, thats another of your needy that can get a hand.

Now the really sad truth behind all this waste, is thanthe government doesn't really mind, as for ever dollar wasted on grog, cigs and pokies, they get a hefty slice of the action, in the form of tax, collected for them, by unpaid business owners, placing yet more strain on the relationship between workers and non workers.

So, as for no solution, a debit card, which restricted goods can not be purchased with will stop most of this waste,

Please, for the last time, tell me why this is wrong, rather than just making some riddle about how far right I am.

I work for my money, pay my taxes and deserve the righ to complain when they are wasted.

Now while not every welfare recipient is a cheat, or a waster, they do have one thing in common, that is, the money they receive was earned by someone else and should be respected for what it is, a helping hand.

If one dollar is wasted, then that's one dollar too much and more importantly, one dollar that could have provided assistance for another needy person.

Quanteening of welfare is a must in my view.

If,you don't like it, get a job as according to gillard and swan, that's easy with our wonderful 4.9% unemployment.

What a load of crap!