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Welfare, We Need to Look

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Hasbeen,

Just when I think it's impossible for you to come over more odious than in the past, you excel yourself.

Are we going to send the males who assisted in the production of these children to chain gangs as well?

Grotesque!
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 2 June 2012 11:16:21 AM
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Hasbeen, A few questions about your tent city.

1. Will all welfare recipients be eligible for tent city?
2. Who will run tent city? A commandant.
3. Will there be guards? If so will those guards be armed?
4. Will guests be free to leave? Will there be barbed wire?
5 Will guests bring their belongings with them?
6. Will guests arrive by train?
6. Will there be showers for new arrivals?
7. Will there be ovens?
8. Will guards be able to plead "I was only following orders." when they are brought to trial?
9. Will guests be able to use the rehctub 'debit card'
9. Last but not least. Will there be TV on Tuesday nights?
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 2 June 2012 2:34:10 PM
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You people are a joke. You must be making a quid out of the welfare spend to be so happy with it.

One of my grandfathers was a railway fetler. He & his family of 7 lived in a tent camp, where ever rail work was required. I guess there wasn't too much entertainment at night, & all that physical exercise made him too fit & healthy, or he had insomnia. If those who built the country had to do it, why not those who want to sponge off it.

I guess the tough life was why he made sure all his kids had a decent education, & could avoid having to do the same. Then guess what, my father ran into the depression 2 years after graduating.

He spent 3 years living in a tent ring barking trees, & clearing country. This earned him 10 shillings a week, plus keep & tobacco.

He was working for a living, not voting for it, like our single mothers do. I can see no reason to keep them in a city, when it is not required to bring up kids.

Poirot, I can see no reason why not, if the ladies in question know who the father/fathers was/were. If they do, they are probably living quite well, & he's the one having trouble finding the necessary for a tent to live in.

Paul a good mine field should do. Then we could send half the population of the Canberra office blocks to do a bit of work for a change as cooks.

Nothing wrong with training these recipients to do the cooking child minding etc for themselves. They might even gain a skill that would get a job, when they come back. Most of them would be busting a gut to get a job after a few months.

Meanwhile we should also cycle all welfare workers through these places, so they get to do something useful for once in their lives.
Posted by Hasbeen, Saturday, 2 June 2012 4:26:49 PM
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I thank the last 4 posts, for giving evidence in favor of my thoughts
While as many Rechtubs exist, using generalizations and damning the Innocent majority.
So too the Paul 1405,s exist in about equal numbers, hasbeen fits best in Rechtubs count.
Some think no wrong is done, come how many think fraud is ONLY FULL TIME WORKERS GETTING THE DOLE?
And that no fraud is worth following up?
And who on behalf of the middle Liberal/Labor middle, think it evil to provide a job, not life time hand outs?
Yes, rightly put the boot in to dads who do not pay, but how about, please do not say they do not exist,single mums with a different dad for each child.
Why should we pay them.
Why should the needy go hungry or cold because some infer sainthood on every receiver of SS?
Single mums are neither evil or saints but many both lie and steal from the fathers DNA tests please!
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 2 June 2012 4:39:52 PM
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I know a family that were welfare dependent most of their lives, raised five kids, four being girls.

Of those four girls, one got married, had two kids, another married, one kid and the third, not married with two kids.

All three are now single mothers.

One of the fathers was and still is a looser, while the other two are very successful and providing mum with a nice little earn thank you very much.

If I were the recipient of welfare,i would be so great full, to think someone earned a wage, paid taxes so I could at lease have somewhere to live and food for my children.

If they asked me to keep receipts for what I spent THEIR MONEY ON I would be only too happy to, as I would appreciate their generosity.

Of cause, now our government, in all it's wisdom, has decided to means test the baby bonus.

So they somehow feel it's better to encourage these people to populate our nation and discourage working mums to have children, as many of them can't afford to have them, let alone afford child care if they continue to work and remain less of a burden on the welfare system.

Go figure!
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 2 June 2012 4:46:28 PM
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Come and listen to a story about a man named Jed
A poor mountaineer, barely kept his family fed,
Then one day he was shootin at some food,
And up through the ground came a bubblin crude.

Oil that is, black gold, Texas tea.

Well the first thing you know ol Jed's a millionaire,
Kinfolk said "Jed move away from there"
Said "Californy is the place you ought to be"
So they loaded up the truck and moved to Beverly.

Hills, that is. Swimmin pools, movie stars.

Well now its time to say good by to Jed and all his kin.
And they would like to thank you folks fer kindly droppin in.
You're all invited back a gain to this locality
To have a heapin helpin of their hospitality

Hillybilly that is. Set a spell, Take your shoes off.

Y'all come back now, y'hear?.

What is the point of these anecdotal stories about railway fettlers and tent camps. About as relevant to the problems of our modern society in relation to welfare as some story about a bunch of hillbillies. You cannot solve complex problems with a simplistic approach. "Ship them up north to tent city." Without going into the details of the how's when's and why's this is going to be done. That is not to say we should not tackle these complex problems and find solutions
Posted by Paul1405, Saturday, 2 June 2012 10:38:22 PM
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