Belly,
After reading the stories from Broken Rites I was quite depressed and it reminded me of the Forgotten Australians and the Little Children are Angels report from the NT. I wonder how much abuse goes unrecorded and unreported.

We actually need strong political leadership to do anything about these things. I am very cynical about politicians.

However it has made me appreciate my childhood and upbringing. A large family (8) and poor, but we always had plenty of food, plain but plenty. Hand me down and repaired clothes were the norm. We had warm clean beds to sleep in, never felt unsafe, and any ailments were seen to. In fact my parents whole being was devoted in caring for us kids. It was practical love.

When I read about other kids, I realize how fortunate we were.

Hi there BELLY, BANJO, and RUNNER...

All the years that I was in the police force, I was astonished at the sheer number and the very breadth of those vile creatures who perpetrate these dreadful crimes.

I believe (and I did possess some good empirical evidence at that time), that even a notable member of the judiciary was committing these offences, abroad.

There was some very strong opinions circulating within the job, that a couple of police members were also involved in offences concerning child pornography.

Personally, I don't believe this dreadful crime is limited to any specific demographic. Rather, it's (amazingly) very wide spread indeed. And there is no area within the community that is totally immune to this type of abhorrent behaviour.

Remember folks, knowing someone's guilty is all well and good.

You MUST be able to prove it in a court of law. And that burden of proof, is very high indeed

Banjo o sung wo yep all true.
And while I fired a shot over the bows of runner for diversion I am sorry I did.
Lets be honest it is not one group.
I understand your thoughts o sung wo, I had many country town cops as mates, played football with many too.
As a result will always question the courts.
Know of one judge no names who committed such crimes.
I focused on the Victorian thing because, Priests/Ministers are even for me, said to be our moral guides.
I just can not bring myself to understand why they, in big numbers, commit this act.
No issue, as bad as this, should be considered unfixable
yet even I know the task is near imposable.
But if we made it too big for politicians to ignore?

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-catholic-churchs-secret-sex-crime-files-20110906
I know, I truly do, still have the Bruises,targeting one group within many is seen as unfair.
How then do we address the problem?
In my research I found many such story's as this link tells us about.
Even worse, from country's all over the world,same church same victims.
Do you know one of those links, a seemingly well respected one, told me Catholic Priests are 100 times more likely to offend this way than any other.
I think I could name many, one a contender.
Can I ask, is the no wedding thing in part a reason?
Can it be true that some join this church for close contact with victims.
Do others see,in my links an open admission that we many of us, protect at all costs the good name of our priests? even some times at cost to our child.
I a non believer, can not getaway from at least this from my Christianity days.
Some how still, I look to the Church, every one of them,for our Moral grounding.
It is not this, but evidence I saw in the 1990s that saw me leave?
now, still not able to not ask, can some of these truly be believers?

this is such an undeniable event that is happening for so many years that is like a taboo that has not been seriously taken into account of the offenders have not suffered appropriate consequences of their actions becasue the people who should be in charge of giving such punishment is "blinded" by the severity of the situation. i just do hope that this would be taken into account because the people are losing their trust to the church and this would lead to more problems in the future.

I suspect that as they still broadcast *RatSinger,* notwithstanding the fact that were it not for the intervention of the genocidal crown that he would have been arrested for his alleged part in the cover up of pedophilia in England, that the politicians intend to do very little.

The problem in part at the moment includes that fact that the mainstream is full of papists and something like 25% of Australians are followers of this perverted faith.
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*Belly* my friend, I do not believe that it is unreasonable or contrary to the rules to expand this thread with a broader consideration of child abuse in general.

As for nick names, it is in good Spirit (usually) that I do this, but I will review the rules as it may indeed be a departure.

As for *Lexie Pexie/Foxy Loxy,* to me it is arguable that whilst it is permissible to change one's handle, it is also reasonable given the public nature of these debates for everyone to be aware and have the opportunity to read the entirety of an individuals views.

In your case though, I may have to consider an apology if it is something that offends you, and you request it.

As for me, I get addressed in a range of ways and it is of no concern to me and usually only adds to my mirth.

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Thereafter, I am in favor of retrospective laws and to hunt the child abusers down, try them and lock the guilty up for the rest of their days with few exceptions post corporal punishment.

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That is not to say that Australia is not relatively better than other countries in some ways, however, that is no excuse for the crimes against humanity that have been perpetrated here, particularly as by not correcting the injustices of the past, the state does in effect condone and perpetuate them.

I am concerned with the elevation of the political consciousness of Australians, and also that which I perceive to be the injustices of the present including those which have roots in the past.