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Posted by runner, Thursday, 19 April 2012 11:38:38 AM
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Runner, while not alone, look at the strange and self indulgent post of Dream On you hide the truth, dreadful as it is, behind a few politicians and the son of blow fly union thief.
Davidf,while telling us a wonderful story of his love for his daughter, a seemingly wonderful person, steps around this issue. The inquiry we talk of is about molestation within the Church. In Victoria. And sadly its covering up. ANY ONE? see attempts to do just that here? Come now would you runner, Dream On think my thread is about covering up my party or those linked to its wrongs? Do you see my great pain at a man I held in my arms the night after his birth,after finding him in a chook pen, and loved! Who became a pedophile? the pain in never again right wrong or bigoted ever being able to trust or love or forget? I return to that question that upset you runner. If the Christ I once followed was here this day. If we stood before him. What would he think of your defense of the indefensible? As I made it clear I want no part of heaven, would he further condemn me for this? *How come so very many Servants of the Church, more in my view than any part of humanity, betray you* In truth I am sorry so early in a thread we saw proof these crimes get buried and children continue to suffer. Posted by Belly, Thursday, 19 April 2012 12:52:19 PM
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Belly
You obviously ignored my first response. Christ would say the same as He did 2000 years ago. Unlike man He does not change. I repeat again for your sake. Please read Jesus made his view clear on the issue. He said 'But whoever shall offend one of these little ones who believes in Me, it would be better for him that an ass's millstone were hung around his neck, and he be sunk in the depth of the sea.'Mathew 18:6. The Priest should be treated the same as the politician or the ABC reporters or the cricket umpires or the scienctist. How much clearer can one be. The inference that I hide the truth is very untruthful which you have a tendency to do when referring to my posts. Posted by runner, Thursday, 19 April 2012 1:04:52 PM
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http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/predatory-and-heartless-priest-jailed-for-sex-assaults-on-girls-20120419-1x8xf.html
I wounder if this man is a trade unionist? Or a member of the ALP? I too wounder if he shares the pain I do after hearing about him. Posted by Belly, Thursday, 19 April 2012 1:36:29 PM
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Hi there BELLY...
I couldn't agree with you or others more. The only 'instrument' available in a matter as abhorrent and loathsome as this, is a full ROYAL COMMISSION. Where there's complete and wide ranging power(s) available, in order to compel, coerce, and command, any witness to furnish the Commission with answers. And to provide any evidence of a kind, that may assist and thus further the Commission with their enquiries. Including, the production of any article, document, picture, or photograph, that is deemed material to the terms of reference, for the successful conduct of the Royal Commission. Non-compliance and contempt, should attract the heaviest of penalties. Gee, if we can't even protect our young, well...? Posted by o sung wu, Thursday, 19 April 2012 3:16:24 PM
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http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/13470842/lawyers-want-national-church-abuse-inquiry/
The link came as a result of the case in the link above, from Lawyers it is nearly a plea for that Royal commission. I fear o sung wo we are not able to fix much. Any issue we bring up is the scene of attempts to protect even cover the crime or wrong. Just for a second,let us understand the fear of the victims. Let us think of the victim as our child/grandchild, it should make no difference,but sadly for some it would. Churches built a fence around sex, even now wants a say in our bedrooms. We in my childhood, while these crimes took place unchecked, heard from the Church sex was the original sin. Do some of these offenders even believe in God? Are some just looking for contact with kids? Do we care enough to stop it? Posted by Belly, Thursday, 19 April 2012 5:06:50 PM
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And how? can a man of God keeper of the faith,do this. He can't, not anymore than a man representing his workers spends thousands of workers money on prostitutes and luxuries. Have you not read in your old days (ie when you were a believer) that it was men of cloth that Jesus spoke to that knew nothing about God let alone knowing Him personally. That is why it was largely 'men of cloth ' that had Christ crucified because He exposed their ignorance of God. Pell did a good job of displaying this ignorance on Q & A. It was men of cloth that had many of the reformers put to death for challenging their rotton system. Men of cloth are not exempt from the adamic nature anymore than the high priests of atheism.