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Victorian Inquiry Church Child Molesting

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We have posted a thousand posts about this subject.
Yet it never gos away.
I have a question, and can not ignore some, from within the party I am a member of,have been convicted and imprisoned for this crime.
How can any human do this.
Forgetting the child is a human who after suffering these horrible acts will one day, if they do not kill them selves as a result, stand eye to eye with them.
And how? can a man of God keeper of the faith,do this.
Why do we constantly hear evidence some knew, had been told, someone under their control was a danger to children.
But failed to act.
Surely Pedophilia can never be defended.
Just as surly as we imprison people for traffic fines we let such offenders walk out of courts, we should consider judging our selves, we fail children everyday.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 5:47:58 AM
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Church child abuse has been going on for decades
and all the Victorian government is doing is calling
for a Parliamentary Inquiry? Why not a Royal Commission?

A Parliamentary Inquiry is not going to be given evidence
against the Church by the Church - that goes back for decades.

A Royal Commission would have been able to force the
Church to hand over evidence with the threat of very
severe sanctions if that wasn't done. Instead they're
going soft on this issue - and giving the Church a
way out.

The abuse of children is horrendous and intolerable
and the failure of the Church to deal with it effectively
has done immeasurable damage to the victims (and to the
church).

The cover-ups, the protection of abusive
clergy, and the refusal to admit egregious mistakes
are unjustifiable. We haven't even begun to calculate
the damage these crimes have done to people's trust
and to the reputation of the Church. Law has simply moved
these abusive clergy from parish to parish, thus giving
them access to new victims.

A Royal Commission should be demanded and given in this case!
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 11:27:17 AM
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All true Lexi, and I despair at the almost daily news about it world wide.
Yes it seems the Church,all of them, with special mention of Catholic is the worst.
Or is it?
Century's of ignorance, of head turning, even in my party.
I blame us, those who never would even consider doing such a thing.
But who too, often, refuse to believe a child calling for our help.
And who often, even cover the crime,rather than be embarrassed? by its uncovering.
Just maybe the victims who choose to end their lives take the easy path.
I feel humanity lacks the will,very guts, to take the evil head on.
We too often turn away rather than confront such issues.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 12:08:41 PM
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Well the thing that I fear, loath actually, has already taken place.
The Crime is unforgivable, every single time.
Never acceptable ever.
In my view one never to be forgotten or forgiven.
Best I can do is make a spot,supervised in my life for an offender,but not trust again.
I have such an offender in my family, one I once loved, very much.
But we gloss over it.
Tony Abbott,with no doubt a committed Catholic and believer, has called for the Church not to be held accountable.
If we let our Ostrich habits cover the death and suffering.
Or the very nature of this crime, even yes the forced weddings of young children, we are lessor for it.
I am sorry for raising the issue, assume the position folks head in the sand children at risk.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 5:18:41 PM
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Yes, a most excellent post *Lexi Pexi* with good support from *Belly*

As I have made my views on this matter quite clear on a number of occasions, including the call for retrospective laws and corporal punishment for the offenders and those who have covered up for them, I will not overly re-iterate them except for this.

Why does it surprise you given the history of this place?

This country, and the genocidal crown of england, have a very long and dark history of dark deeds including the abuse of children which remains to this day.

To mention but a few, we have the abuse of children from england in the early days of transplantation and invasion.

We have the categorisation of the *Original Australians* as animals and the following wholesale genocidal practices, including, but not limited to, rape, pillage, murder, theft, slavery, the poisoning of wells and the "gifting" of pox infected blankets.

In more recent times, we have the theft of children and the destruction of families, even in the post WWII period which makes the current head of state guilty as well in my opinion, as by her hand did some of this most foul legislation come into force, and no doubt had a significant bearing on her blocking the arrest of *RatSinger* in recent times, so as to avoid a legal precedent which could in turn encapsulate her as well.

I recall the words of a self confessed black hearted torey on lateline in the late 90's re: the illegal invasion of Iraq who said something like:

" ... it's legal if the parliament says its legal. ... "

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And, post WWI, we have the refusal of the ugly Australian guvment to recognise the equality of all people and races which no doubt played a not insignificant role in the decision of the Japanese to become aggressive.

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Thus, whilst shocking and disturbing, to me it is not surprising.
Posted by DreamOn, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 7:40:50 PM
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And even though it is little shown to us, currently, the terrible mental harm inflicted upon the Asylum Seeker children and others.

Now, for you *Belly* having pointed out the suicide that has occurred in the aftermath of the activities of the pedophiles, in some cases this has come about as a result of trauma induced mental illness. In principal, it is the same thing to me.

Thus, considered from a legal perspective, if we as a society chose to go after "child abusers" in all of their forms, and noting that to me at least it is a crime so heinous as to be worthy of having no statue of limitations in terms of time, this would result in a situation which would keep the current court system busy for years and years and would likely require whole new buildings and specialised practitioners for same.

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Of course, the establishment is well aware of this, and despite their crocodile tears and protestations, their actions and lack thereof clearly, to me at least, indicate that they do not wish to be held to account.

Again, the solution in my view, is not to vote for either of the main 2 parties, as as they have had ample time to correct these problems and have not, clearly it is because they do not wish to do so.
Posted by DreamOn, Wednesday, 18 April 2012 7:45:35 PM
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