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Victorian Inquiry Church Child Molesting

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic_sex_abuse_cases_by_country
When will we act.
Will we ever
What right have we to complain about child brides in another belief if we let this go
Posted by Belly, Friday, 20 April 2012 1:53:08 PM
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Hi there...BELLY,LEXI and all the other good folk, who are rightly mortified at the very breadth and dimension, of these abhorrent crimes occasioned against, one of the most defenceless groups within society, our children...

My only comment - don't 'screw yourselves up' on this issue. It'll only tear you apart emotionally if you allow yourselves to dwell on these dreadful crimes.

This crime, in fact ALL crimes, can be dealt with most effectively. Provided, three departments of Government totally fulfill their obligations to the community.

First: ALLOW police to exercise all their powers;

Second: DIRECT the judiciary to impose sentences that truly reflect the wishes of the broader community;

and

Third: IMPROVE and REDRESS some of the appalling standards and conditions that exist in some of the State's gaols. And having done so, turn gaol back into gaol, and this means, the re-imposition of meaningful standards of DISCIPLINE, both for the prison officer and the inmate, simultaneously.

In my humble opinion, these measures may well go a long way in decreasing the level of criminality and recidivism in the community.

Of course, we all know that none of these initiatives will ever be implemented. As they simply doesn't suit any political expediency ?
Posted by o sung wu, Friday, 20 April 2012 3:00:27 PM
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Belly

Runner have you reconsidered your views?

Which view is that? Jesus words towards those sinning against kids or the fact that I find child abuse abhorent or the view that pornography fuels this perverted act often. Which view would you like me to reconsider Belly?
Posted by runner, Friday, 20 April 2012 4:33:14 PM
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Runner you know I agree with every one of those totally.
I was unhappy with the introduction of Labor politicians into this thread.
I refrained from linking to this very days HORRIBLE two story's, make it three 12 year old girl.
3 year old grandchild.
leave the 14 year old out.
o sung wo agree the lot yes I am emotional,but have seen the results.
I can not stop being angry about this.
And the fact you are quite right, not enough votes for any party to act.
I can never drop my concerns.
No perpetrator should walk free for 10 years at least.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 20 April 2012 6:03:27 PM
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Belly,
I have read your links and am quite astonished at the world lists on wikipedia. Also the number of recorded offenders that 'Broken Rites' has listed in Aus. It is even worse than the Forgotten Australians report.

I found they listed some offenders from my local area which apparently were kept quiet. I had some friends who went to church schools that told me about some particularly harsh Brothers and nuns.

One thing that does surprize is that Broken Rites does not show records of any female offenders and one would expect there to be a few.

I still do not know what an inquiry would likely uncover as Broken Rites seem to have it well documented, but if you think it worthwhile I would not oppose it. Looks like the churches are experts in keeping the lid on adverse activities.

Like the Forgotten Australians the evidence of the victims would be distressing reading.

The offenders are just the ones that should be protecting the kids. The parents, many on low incomes, struggled to sent their kids to the schools only to place them at risk. They would be heartbroken and their faith solely tested.
Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 21 April 2012 12:17:24 AM
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Banjo over the last few threads I have put up an idea is growing.
Note in this one we each share the view no real outcome is possible.
That just simply distresses me.
Because it is true.
Here is the skeleton of my idea, if we contributed enough to this site I could underline it!
Groups like getup are party Parisian, any one can take this idea and run with it, take it if you can make it work.
How about a strictly enforced non party on line site that runs what is the word for list to be presented in Parliament?
On such issues, yes been done but not party , asking both sides to act and publishing their replies.
Peoples plebiscite?
This could be high on the list.
Yesterdays grand father and 3 year old?
Are we human?
Lets not overlook the costs of running this site and if we can help do it.
We get to tell our thoughts in return.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 21 April 2012 5:32:25 AM
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