Belly,
Yes 2012 will be a challenging year for the ALP.

If they can get through the year without another major stuff up it will be a miracle. The NBN looms large for many stuff ups. Already a major cable replacement in Queensland and reports indicate very few take ups by households, so that is not looking to good. Then add on the cost blowouts. Where are we now $50 or $60 billion?

Then there is the illegal boat arrivals to contend with. The open door policy could easily result in more large scale drownings.

One wonders when we will feel the effects of the Carbon tax. What a stupid concept, especially in the face of increasing scepticism about AGW. We are pumping out more CO2 than ever before and the global temperature is not rising. Maybe the ALP picked the wrong horse to back in this race.

What else can go wrong? Plenty, with the incompetent government that is there now. Yes it will be challenging for them.

Interesting to see if they come up with more hair brained ideas to waste taxpayers money on and just what will be the ammount borrowed at the end of this term. A great legacy to leave our kids and grandkids.

Banjo [it is pointless asking Shadow Minister] do you truly think as you post.
Is there no good in Labor no bad in Liberal?
Are you aware propaganda is not related to truth.
That the facts of the NBN are far different that conservatives and the toilet wall press say?
First politics drove the NBN first, had it ran past my village, it never will, every home and farm would take it.
Second CONTRACTS, after current ones expire greater numbers will use the system.
Mate truth is even you, in ten years will try to forget you ever fell for the bull dust.
By years end, my mate Shadow minister gloats, waiting to tell me I got it wrong.
Abbott will be replaced Gillard too, I ask can anyone, who claims such understanding of Labors wrongs.
Shadow Minister I speak to you, not find a single concern with current conservative directions?
Lexi, you are quite right but do not fear truth buys more than lies.
The achievements of the Rudd/Gillard ALP have been good, under the hardest of conditions Gillard has got up true future changes we all should be proud of.
She however has flipped around like a fish on a hot plate first stopping Rudd then implementing his wish.
My constant needling my party is not betrayal,but from an understanding we, the party must change grow, and pass on to younger folk the understanding, standing still is no option.
My closest union mates ignore me, because I refuse to let my party die,demand change and returning the party to its true owners not faction/union heads.

Is there no good in Labor no bad in Liberal?
Belly,
No one's saying that. Again you're twisting statements gists. I can only speak for myself & that is that I have more than sufficient evidence that The ALP does nothing for Australia to move forward. In fact the ALP put the gear into reverse whereas the conservatives were moving forward even though it was only in first low gear. I feel for the many decent Australians who can not see a light at the end of the tunnel. Does it not scratch your conscience to see this country being so mistreated by those whom you display so much loyalty to ?

Dear Belly,

Give it up. There's no point in arguing with
people who only see the negative side of
things and are influenced by the media.

People who don't see any of the positive things
that the current government has done. You could
some of them but it wouldn't make any difference.

You're not going to convince people who
are comfortable in their own ideologies.
Nothing will change even when ignorance and vested
interests are confronted by positive outcomes.
As I told you once before - even if our PM was to
suddenly walk on water - the newspaper headlines the
next day would read - "PM can't swim."

Lexi,
Only someone with a sheltered life can make such statements. Do you ever think of others ?
Does it not bother you what's happening to Australia ? Or are you so devoid of foresight ?

Belly'
There is truely no good in the present Labor government. I cannot think of any one good thing that has occurred in the past 4 years.

I can see plenty wrong with the LIBs, dont worry, and the continuing presence of Turnbull is one of them. But as I want to get rid of the present government, now is not the time to voice shortcomings of the Libs. You started this thread to talk about the ALP so any talk about the Libs is 'off topic'

Australia certainly does not deserve the incompedent fools we presently have in government. I have an astounding list of about 30 major stuff ups in the past 4 years. These have cost up billions of dollars that could have been utilized to benefit the country. All wasted.

Must be hard for you to continue to support Labor with the idiots there now doing their best to wreck the country, through sheer stupidity.

Labor needs a lot of new blood and that may happen after the next election. An election I await with big expectations. I will re-evaluate Labor after 2013.