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2012 a year that challenges the ALP

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Belly,

I read the link far before you posted it. KRudd was axed for a reason, which is easily forgotten now, especially since the Coalition has been boosting him in comparison to Juliar, he gets a boost from a rose tinted selective amnesia. The reality is that if KRudd were re instated, there would probably be a short boost in the polls for a few weeks until the coalition dragged up all the stuff ups he was responsible for, and the Labor caucus hates his guts.

Shorten might stand a chance, as his lack of experience also gives him a la lack of baggage. For this reason he is being groomed with a cabinet position. I believe that when Juliar is knifed, Shorten will take over.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 12:07:46 PM
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Fair enough, I disagree with your view of Rudd, and always knew Shorten has the right stuff, he always did.
He will, one day become PM and be very well liked.
I see or saw no reason to dump Rudd, other than Gillard and a few giving him bad advice, even less reason she was picked to lead
BUT you and I half Australian voters are fixed and our votes can not be won or lost.
Rudd can win the in betweens, they base their vote on liking, looks, blue eyes blond hair gets them.
Shorten has it all, but not yet known by the passer by voters.
He may have to wait.
If Rudd moves, maybe the reason he has not, a big section will put Shorten up, to stop him.
Turnbull, taking the leadership this year,will make Labors job impossible, unless they change first.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 4:56:46 PM
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"Shorten has the right stuff, he always did. He will, one day become PM and be very well liked."

You said the same about Gillard just more than a year ago.

Shorten might have a future, but not until he has cast aside the baggage of incompetence such as Gillard, Emmerson, Bowen etc. As yet he is untested, and probably needs to wait until after a few coalition incumbencies while the electorate forgets about the train smash of the last 4 years.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 6:33:58 PM
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First post after Rudd I said I would never trust Gillard.
And that she would go as Rudd did knife in her back.
I quite wrongly, never haveing trusted or liked her, said she would govern well, got it it wrong.
My post history concerning her was quite wrong too.
I CONSTANTLY and wrongly said my party would NEVER elect this Lefty as leader.
She, Simon Crean, Mr China pays my fares, are leftovers from Latham.
Rubbish collector comes soon this tip is free.
It will take much more than Bile to defeat Bill Shorten.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 25 January 2012 4:19:36 AM
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Julie Gillard had a hard day today,do not get me wrong, I do not like her still.
But at the hands of the people only Labor helps most often, Australian Aboriginals, in support of what more than often is just a site for drunken behavior.
The Aboriginal tent Embassy, rioters forced her to be afraid.
I am honestly ashamed, of especially those involved, haveing marred this day and set back their own cause.
But even more, take note ALP! far too many Australians, including my in box now, from with in the UNION/LABOR movements think it was great funny and well deserved.
WHEN
ARE you blokes going to wake up?
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 26 January 2012 5:25:07 PM
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One more time.
Shadow Minister it is you I talk to.
Haveing time and again found our selves in conflict.
And been told by you, endless times, I am a Labor tragic.
I again, yes maybe made my century in this challenge, close to the one hundredth time.
CHALLENGE you.
To tell us of your sides people and acts that concern you.
Are you content with your party's policy's, is it not true they best resemble unset jelly wobbling and even falling from the dish.
I can not, ever, under any circumstances, think you would find reason.
To claim Gillard was right.
Again Abbott did nothing wrong, he may have thought about it better.
But the tent Embassy is set up as drunken bush camp, untidy uncouth and it should now be bulldozed but help could be given to more balanced people to open one up in another area.
In your court mate, are you honest enough, informed enough to talk of real fears lifetime followers of your team currently have?
Posted by Belly, Friday, 27 January 2012 6:30:07 AM
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