o sung wu...we have talked about this before....and while most as belly has pointed out, we still have the problem of infrastructure not keeping up with growth.

Iam scratching my head, just on that problem alone.

More people here?....is that your answer to the what?

These poor people are easy labour, and thats why.....as to keep things cheap.....just like the sweat shops in.....

My Questions is, "what about our own grown crew?.....I want an answer!

CACTUS

Oops, I meant Chris Bowen, not Ellison, of course!
Please see http://www.smh.com.au/national/gillard-takes-mps-to-task-over-cabinet-revelations-20111017-1ltfj.html to get a media take on things

Call me anything you like but what's wrong with viewing this issue like this. The Nauru business was reasonably effective then Labor changed it. Why ? Now it's all ineffective.
How much clearer do some people need it explained. What was Gillard's reason for changing things ? Was there really a need for relaxing the accessibility to this country by so many who may or may not be genuine refugees ? What is the percentage of genuine vs non-genuine refugees coming without I.D.
Abbott gets accused of saying No to everything. Well, thus far it has proven to be safer to say no than saying yes to everything.
Why keep blaming Abbott for the sudden rise in boat numbers when it it was Gillard who abandoned Nauru. If Gillard had kept Nauru & design an alternative meanwhile Australia's future would not have been as jeopardised as it is now.

SD: "Call me anything you like"
RESPONSE: I didn't, and wouldn't, call you anything. I just described what you do, i.e deal in half-truths.

SD "The Nauru business was reasonably effective then Labor changed it. Why ?"
RESPONSE: It was totally effective because it intimidated asylum seekers by forcibly turning them out to sea. Previously they were transferred to Nauru, which was no disencouragement, just as mandatory detention is not now. The reason Labor changed it was because intimidation by use of force is simply wrong. It ignored human rights and safety.

SD: " Was there really a need for relaxing the accessibility to this country by so many who may or may not be genuine refugees ? What is the percentage of genuine vs non-genuine refugees coming without I.D."
RESPONSE: " The consequence of righting a wrong was to relax accessibility. The Malaysian Solution is a humane attempt to discourage arrivals by dangerous boat journey (and can also apply to illegal immigrants who arrived by conventional means). Refugess were not assessed at all when boats were turned out to sea, which was a very safe solution to the identification problem, but a very wrong way to act. Who is a refugee and who is not needs to be assessed under any humane solution, no getting away from it

SD: "Why keep blaming Abbott for the sudden rise in boat numbers when it it was Gillard who abandoned Nauru. If Gillard had kept Nauru & design an alternative meanwhile Australia's future would not have been as jeopardised as it is now."
RESPONSE: The rise in boat numbers has nothing to do with processing on Nauru. Just about everyone who got as far as Nauru was given residency. The abandonment of Nauru was a sign that all aspects of the Pacific Solution, including the disincentive of being turned back to sea, had been abandoned. It was this latter aspect that encouraged the "people-smuggling" trade to rekindle (I have a problem with this term as smuggling mean to "sneak" something through. The boats announce their arrival by phone or whatever means, so how is it "smuggling"). The Gov't has designed a humane alternative to the Pacific Solution that will succeed, but Mr A will not back it, for disingenuous reasons, to gain political advantage. Labor's fault is that it assumed, wrongly, that the opposition would act in the nations and refugees best interests, not its own. Taking refugees has risks, but we have to have a balanced view. I believe Australia, as a responsible world citizen, should accept them while taking every measures it can to ensure our safety. I am sorry that some take a view otherwise and can only hope that, if reincarnated, they find themselves on the side needing help in their next life.