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Seventh boatload of aslyum-seekers in one week - Labor's border protection collapse.

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Lexi and LF can kid themselves that the Pacific solution didn't work, but with more people arriving last week than in 5 years of the pacific solution, only the most powerful self delusion (or herbs) can sustain that position.

If you two want to form a new group where you can agree on this fantasy feel free. Here are a few more: PS the earth is really flat. The world trade center was destroyed by the US government, etc.

The coalition offered Juliar assistance for off shore processing, but she said NO.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Friday, 16 December 2011 1:59:07 PM
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We should not feed this bloke, he gets joy out of being the Geoffry Boycott of politics.
Boycott was an English cricketer, boring but well able to defend his wicket.
Even his side found him a bore.
May be a Little of Doctor Grace in Shadow Minister, an undoubted great cricketer, he famously on being clean bowled told the bowler this.
Son they came here to see me bat not you bowl.
Recent polls had been making small moves back to Gillard and even smaller to Labor.
This was evidence people are aware of the true state of this problem.
As has been the case so very often , far to often, Gillard lost all forward movement by insulting Rudd.
I rest, confident this issue will soon damage Abbott more than any one.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 16 December 2011 3:13:56 PM
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Belly,
me thinks you and Lexi live in hopes. The issue of the illegal boat people will not go away. If Gillard is disposed by Rudd, he will be rightly branded as the one who began the influx of illegals.

If I were opposition leader, I would take the kid gloves off and brand the illegals for what they are, con artists, shysters, shonks, liars and gate crashers. It is the influx of these that means other genuine refugees have to spend years more in squalid camps.

If the illegals were genuine they would fly here and put their case to DIAC. But no, they prefer to pay far more and enter over the back fence and this stupid government embrasses them. Ask why they pay more to come by boat.

Over 2 hundred of the illegals have died trying to get here, since 2008, and that blood is on Rudds and Labor hands.
Posted by Banjo, Friday, 16 December 2011 3:47:25 PM
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Dear Banjo,

You have no idea of what I think.

They are merely your summations.

However let me say this much, the author Susan
Metcalfe (The Pacific Solution) sums things up
quite fairly:

"While Opposition Leader Tony Abbott likes to cry
havoc each time the Government twitches - lets not
forget that detention centre riots, self-harm, and
tabloid sensationalism were just as prevalent during
the Coalition's last spell in Government."

She adds:

"As boats keep coming and battle lines blur in the fog
of political war, the time is ripe to sort through the
past decade's irrational policymaking and offer a more
logical set of policies, driven by the needs of human
beings rather than political fear."
Posted by Lexi, Friday, 16 December 2011 5:54:33 PM
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Lexi,
But I do have an idea of what you think. For example, not long ago you were advocating that we provide the transport for the illegals from Indonesia to Aus, so they would not be at risk on the boat voyage.

In your last post you apparently agree with some author, Quote:
"As boats keep coming and battle lines blur in the fog
of political war, the time is ripe to sort through the
past decade's irrational policymaking and offer a more
logical set of policies, driven by the needs of human
beings rather than political fear."

I agree with that sentence as well, but the needs of the human beings that our politicians should consider is Australian citizens, who are being taken for a ride by the illegals. Far tougher action is required so that the illegals will not want to come, and I have a few ideas along those lines.
Posted by Banjo, Friday, 16 December 2011 9:32:59 PM
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I rest, confident this issue will soon damage Abbott more than any one.
Belly,
Wrong as usual. It's the utter lack of foresight by the ALP & its supporters who will do more & more damage to this country. Until you come to realise that blind loyalty is about as bad as the lack of integrity that's so blatantly on display. Yes, all sides of politics are guilty of the hypocrisy of searching for mileage. What only one side of politics is guilty of is selling this country out to anyone & anything just to be in power & it's not the crowd led by Abbott. Remember politics is about looking after the country not wrecking it.
Posted by individual, Tuesday, 20 December 2011 9:16:18 AM
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