Juliar said no to off shore processing.

The coalition offered her a compromise, and she took 15 minutes to reject it in spite of the advice of her immigration minister Chris Bowen. Juliar is playing politics with Australia's security.

SM,

You've go to stop twisting the facts to suit your party's
agenda. The PM did no such thing. What the PM did do is
personally ask Tony Abbott to support changes to the
Migration Act so that whoever was in government could
then make the decisions concerning asylum seekers. Mr
Abbott as usual said "No!" He did not offer any compromise.
It was either his way (Nauru), or no way. But you keep
on with your party's one issue agenda - which is condeming
Labor. We understand - you have nothing else to offer!

Lexi,

The facts are that Juliar presented the change in Law that stripped all protections from the Migration act to the coalition. The coalition accepted the legislation with one amendment to restore some protections, but still allow off shore processing.

Juliar then said NO to this compromise and set about improving the smugglers business model, by removing further deterrents as per the Greens demands.

And why we all argue the boats' will just keep coming.

That's the thing with us Australians - AND our politicians...what we do best - All we ever do is talk !

Whether it's to build a second Airport for Sydney, or a new Dam for Melbourne - what do we do...talk !

I'm an uneducated retired copper, but I'll tell you all something ; this (magnificent) country of ours, is slowly slipping away from us ! It's in the process of dying. Crimes of violence are on the increase in all our cities. We complain that sentences are too lenient, gaols are like holiday camps, and we're told our youth are so disaffected with everything, that's why they have little or no respect for anyone or anything !

We can't seem to make anything anymore, we don't have a manufacturing industry, we simply blame China for that ! Aren't we supposed to be both the clever and lucky country ?

And what do we do about it ?

Talk, talk and more talk.

GOD HELP US ALL !

oh sung wu, yes true.
We must blame first our selves.
It is in our hands we put politicians there all of us.
Right now the winners are as listed, smugglers, individuals who in truth come for financial not refugee reasons.
Greens and the few who consider us, the majority SAVAGES for saying stop the boats, reconsider our Migration policy's, stop separatism.
Government and opposition, both are to blame.
And yes Labor made big mistakes.
FORGOT PUBLICS ENTRENCHED OPINION.
But as SM milks the issue, past mistakes yes no talk of fixing it.
It will be February before the government get its wants past the lower house.
BUT not the senate!
By then, count with me, 2500 more arrivals will come.
Greens the minority, will win on Abbott's votes we AUSTRALIA will not.
If every Australian.
Wrote one letter, to both leaders and that fool Brown.
The same letter no abuse,those end in the rubbish.
Remind them of this country's growing costs, growing concerns and demand an end we just may get it.
PS
Activists also address such a letter to the media,exact copy, they grab it and the whisper becomes a roar.
Polly's need a prod hot irons work best.

Shad, as usual you deal in half-truths, such as half of the Pacific Solution instead of aknowledging its entirity (i.e. naval guns).

To many half-truths you now add "She (JG) turned down the coalition's compromise even when her minister for immigration recommended going with Nauru".

Nauru was discussed, as of course it ought to have been, but not "recommended" without the condition that the Malaysian Solution should also be implemented. Ms Gillard, and other cabinet members saw,rightly, that this was too complicated and wouldn't fly.

So, Shad, what is your point this time? is it:-

1) The ALP should not look at any possible way to get its own policy through parliament?
2) That cabinet should simply accept the Chris Ellison's floated suggestion because he, at that point, was Minister for Immigration?
3) That any idea floated within cabinet should be followed through once cabinet confidentiality is breached?

You latch on to a half-truth which you then spout as mantra, and that's the total extent of your argument. C'mon, Shad, that doesn't cut it. OLO readers deserve better.

You still talk of the "Pacific Solution" as if all it involved was processing in Nauru (not Nehru, Belly, that was an Indian bloke). You simply won't acknowledge that the ad hoc development of the policy finally led, as a last resort, to the Australian Navy having to do the dirty work because all else had failed.

If you cannot bring yourself to acknowledge this incontrovertible fact, because it completely guts your entire position on border protection, it is because you have roped yourself the mast of HMAS Tony and will happily go down with the ship.

I do not wish the Australian Navy to be compromised in the way it was a decade ago in carrying out inhumanitarian government policy, whoever is in power.