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Seventh boatload of aslyum-seekers in one week - Labor's border protection collapse.

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LF,

There were 4 boats turned back in 2001, yet the pacific solution continued to work into 2008. Yet you continue to claim this as the main reason the pacific solution worked? Not the reduced success to get to Aus or the TPVs? Have you any supporting information for this ludicrous claim, or did you just make it up.

Note that in Nov 2007 when Labor took power there were only 4 boat people in detention.

The coalition has offered labor a chance for an off shore processing with a proven success record, that labor cannot implement its idiot scheme is not its concern. That Labor prefers to play politics rather than compromise is an indication of its priorities.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 10:35:34 AM
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Luci,

I note you referring to an "SD" in your last few posts. Is my name being taken in vain?
I assume that it be not be me as I have had little to say about the topic apart from a nod of the head in the general direction of Lexi and Belly.

Take it easy.

SD
Posted by Shaggy Dog, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 11:24:19 AM
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Dear Individual,

Here's a few links that may answer some of your questions:

http://www.lowyinterpreter.org/post/2011/09/13/The-Pacific-Solution-was-a-fraud.aspx

http://www.theage.com.au/news/World/Exminister-named-Nauru-passport-csam/2006/05/09/1146940517313.html
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 1:39:08 PM
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Geez SD, you're right. SM it should have been, apologies.

Shad, your point has been covered in many posts on other threads. Nauru processing alone never did and never will have any real impact on boat numbers. Your own figures show that once the Navy stepped in to do the dirty work the boats trickled to a stop and not before. The threat of being turned back out to sea remained until Nauru was abandoned. That's why Mr A has vowed to use the Navy again. Why would he need to go that far, do you think? You and he obviously disagree on Australian Navy's role in the "Pacific Solution". Get hip with the party line, Shad.

You are dedicated beyond reason now, tied to the mast as you are. I'm not dedicating any more keystrokes to this thread so it's all yours, Shad. Maintaining the mantra will never make it true.
Posted by Luciferase, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 2:42:43 PM
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Luciferase,

Just a simple question:

If the pacific solution didn't work, and the only reason the boats stopped was the risk of being turned around, then why was it still working in 2008 7 years later, and then one year after labor came to power and the pacific solution was lifted, suddenly the boats increased dramatically.

At this point your theory falls in a hole.

Just because labor tragics keep repeating that the pacific solution didn't work, doesn't make it true.

I am a cynic, I look at the numbers:
2001 No pacific solution - thousands of boat arrivals
2002 Pacific solution - zero boat arrivals
- etc.
2008 Pacific solution - almost zero boat arrivals
2009 No pacific solution - thousand of boat arrivals.
- etc.

It will take more than a few unsubstantiated opinion pieces by labor tragics to convince the Australian people that the huge body of evidence didn't happen.

Put some facts on the table. Richo's opinion is just that, an opinion.

What next? will you tell me that the earth is flat.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 3:11:37 PM
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Dear Luciferase,

Shadow Minister said, "What next? Will you tell me
that the earth is flat?"

Don't you wish it were flat so all the idiots
would keep walking and never come back? ;-)
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 13 December 2011 3:40:25 PM
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