579,
You had better google the greens for your self.

I had their policies all itemized a few years ago. Now they have changed them into abstract terms that can mean anything.

e.g. They have gone from advocating lowering the age of concent and legalising all drugs, to giving young people more right to make the decissions affecting them.

Best everyone reach their own conclusions. Even better judge them on their actions, both in and outside parliament.

Banjo we very much agree here.
I think many who are upset with me need to know why I think as I do.
Yes that hungry childhood, it stifled my siblings life, no fun being the poorest of the poor.
And no fun the children of a railway fettler who had to move from tiny town to town often.
We early knew, not thought, the 23 years in opposition had to end.
It did, by then we had begun work, no longer hungry.
Only for the changes we had begged for,
The big fella, we had thought of him for so very long as our saint, our man our future.
He had to fight the truly it existed then, faceless men.
Few knew,fewer wish to admit, Charlie Oliver,strong man ,head of the AWU in a building now derelict or maybe gone.
Gave GW, sorry about the spelling, permission! the right, to lead the ALP.
its time! we won! the big fella and one other ran the government for months.
Then the bottom fell out!
He put a cabinet in place including refugees from a insane asylum!
We got great changes mixed with headlines like todays.
Unfair, unbalanced, and some times well earned, sex betrayal, even a fool who while borrowing to buy us back, tried doing it from a con man.
So Labor fell, I thought it would take a lifetime 23 more years to repair us.
But we changed! we do still,and we suffer the defections of members who seem allergic to governing.
A dream fantasy world off never to be achieved not even understood or wanted wishes, it currently is called the greens
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579,
My reference to "dirty rotten SOCIALISM". Being just a wee bit sarcastic there towards Belly. I am socialistic by nature. Belly made a disparaging remark about socialism and The Greens so I was merely pointing out that the word (Labor hates) SOCIALISM is contained in their party manifesto. The hypocrisy of Labor, the belief in socialism is supposedly a cornerstone of the party, but just don't mention the word or worse still say you are a socialist and a ALP member. Something akin to "I'm a devout Catholic but I just don't believe in God."
Try a 'Google' greens.org.au/policy 43 areas of policy listed there to read, can do likewise at a state level. Just don't try the same thing for the Labor or Liberal parties you will draw a blank.
Belly I'm about your age. IAN MACDONALD is vitally interested in Labor Party policy as it relates to PRISON, can you fill him in or should he ask PALUZZANO or ORKOPOULOS they can give him the inside view, Labor don't have to rely on the support of independents in the prison parliament here in NSW they are firmly in the majority. LOL.
Thanks Belly it's good to know we have 10 years left, where did you get your crystal ball, your predictions are uncanny. I'm in the majority because I know 150% of people agree with me. LOL

Sure even if buried deep within us we know humanity loves to dream of a better world.
That wish lives within every party or group.
Labor has it dreamers both good and bad, achievable and never so.
Few want to know but truth will out ,without the support of Robert Lee Hawk, his saving the franklin, the Greens would never have risen, Bob Brown too.
Labor dreamers,Left manipulators, true dreamers, high minded folk, dreamed of better.
It matters not to them they search the reject box of other party's for treasures.
Or that the gems they hold dear are not ever going to be wanted by most.
It is enough to dream, even hide those dreams,not let the a fact they are unwanted be seen.
Banjo has it right, more than any party this is a coalition of very different, each pushing or pulling in other directions.
If SHY or Lee Rianon, came from the party that best suits the policy's they hold, Socialist Alliance, they would find a support level of less than two percent,they hidden a party of both extremes and well meaning , but a lost party that understands this.
IT IS BEST FOR THEM that their policy's are not well understood.
And that,even if it keeps Conservatives in power they want to be in control 12% of voters demand to rule.
I will rest only after both party's publicly combine to return government to the majority,

Lee Rhiannon, the lady the conservatives among us love to hate. What an outstanding individual our Lee is, forthright, committed and true to her word. Maybe when the day comes and Bob steps down Lee might assume the party leadership, though they are big shoes to fill. Besides that Lee is great company for dinner.
Belly good to know Bob (shout me another beer Singo) Hawke was the savior of The Greens, we are forever in his debt. p/s We should all chip in and buy him another racehorse, there is a saying that goes like something something on fire etc etc on him. That my feeling towards Hawke. You are an old union man can you tell us the story about Hawke (ACTU leader) and the mail sorters big strike.

Paul Gday, well if Ian ends up in prison I may visit him, he was head of a government department, I served the union members in.
I could not get in the door to see the product of unwed parents then, power brokers could but not and ordinary bloke like me.
I fully intend to try.
150%? well maybe old lofty if still alive will correct me but thought it only went to one hundred.
Liked your post, saw it propping my views up anger heat, and wrong.
I knew long ago you came from the land of the lost extremist left.
If every one of you, from all over Australia gathered the crowd would be less than 2.000 and the most informed propositions would be past in the porta loo.
Now not every proposition is bad.
But many can not even get majority support in your team.
I know your policy's, have stood on the floor watching them beaten to pulp at Labor conferences.
I love most, true, it makes me feel good, the blind stupidity of warning the world Labor is the Liberal party.
IT ALWAYS comes from the very left of reality sailing down a storm water drain on the good ship [two planks and a 44 gallon drum] we know better, wet and cold rowers shouting at us for?
Following the voters, your 150% against my 45% you never make it.