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The Hypocrisy of Labor

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Paul I am not your enemy, he can be found in your self.
Only a few years ago you would have found me handing out your how to votes.
I do not craft my views to insult or hurt, am in no way angry with you.
I am angry with your party, and myself.
I was blind sided, many of us.
I thought once as the greens forced my party and others to get back to conservation, the fleas infesting them are not a problem.
Well no, the exuberance of getting those Senate seats,midst a very real disenchantment with the two others.
Failure to understand it was a peak not a trend.
Marickville council and its trade war on Israel.
The refusal to let Rudd's carbon tax pass.
Bob Browns increasing nose in the air dictating to 88% of us.
Paul! I speak the truth, of those 88% 44% at least, share my dislike of your party, are you aware,can truth see the light?
In all probability it is 80% who think that way.
You just can not plant spuds and expect to harvest pumpkins.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 2 December 2011 5:15:01 AM
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Belly, you like to quote unsubstantiated figures to support you argument against The Greens 88% of this and 44% of that and 80% etc. This figures only exist within you, they are meaningless. To me you appear to strongly believe in maintaining the status quo what is now will be forever. If that was the case we would still have the White Australia Policy, still be at war with Vietnam, and still hate Red China. What is popular culture today may not be so tomorrow, likewise what is distasteful today may well be delightful tomorrow. You call Green polices extreme, but that just depends where you sit. An example of what I perceive as extreme is Australia's foreign policy in relation to Iraq and Afghanistan. There is little evidence of World support for the US backed action in these countries, but Australia is certainly in the extreme minority here. On a more personal level during the last NSW State election, I had a long conversation with a Labor hack at a pre-poll booth about 'boat people', not much else to do at pre-poll, this bloke was on the ALP ticket for the LC, fortunately in an un-winnable position, his fervent belief was "The navy should be given orders to blow those boat people out of the water." men, women and children, that to me is extreme (as were most of his views on everything) but fortunately that's not ALP policy, yet. You raised that dirty word SOCIALISM, all I can say if you are a Labor Party member please read your parties manifesto, Labor is committed to, wait for it, SOCIALISM its there in black and white. If you are a Labor Party member you embrace dirty rotten SOCIALISM. No one thinks Labor has an identity problem/ For The greens our policies are there in black and white for everyone to read, we are a committed party, our policies are not popular with all voters, so what. Labor/Liberal formulate policy on the run,
Posted by Paul1405, Friday, 2 December 2011 10:00:24 AM
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Paul What is the matter with socialism, do not you ever socialize. We are not all hermits. What is the opposite of socialism, would that be liberalism. The world has been to liberal and see what happened. You are implying there is something wrong with the word, Is it a word that is hiding and waiting to come out. ALP have been around for a long time and they are not about to change wording to suite you.
Posted by 579, Friday, 2 December 2011 1:39:18 PM
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Paul with respect? are you a very young fella or a very old one.
It would be, I think, common knowledge Labor left much of its written platform behind, MATE you challenged me in this thread for doing it Socialism being one we are no socialist party.

And word games may make you feel warm and cuddly but here is a maths problem, gee my last teacher Lofty Mc Bride would fall out of his wheelchair me? maths?
12% vote greens, polls are near constant.
88% do not ok so far?
Of the 12% some half? come back to Labor first preference.
579 Socialism is not a want for the ALP.
A considered, open researched look at our country and its system as supported by the two sides, shows both support socialist things, in part we are socialist.
BUT both sides are,with public support tightening this up in welfare for a start.
I bet, every thing I own, to a bag of snails, my judgment of the greens will be proved to have been too kind to them within ten years.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 2 December 2011 3:46:00 PM
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Belly,
You are right about the Greens, they have got where they are on Labor preferences.

Let us see how they perform with both majors putting them last on HTVs.

Be good to see a critical analysis of their policies, which have now been reworded to mean whatever you like, just abstract rubbish, nothing concrete.
Posted by Banjo, Friday, 2 December 2011 4:19:43 PM
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Banjo What is the greens policy, Bob seems to have a wish list, i have never heard of any concrete policy. Can you help us out.
Posted by 579, Friday, 2 December 2011 4:39:30 PM
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