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The Hypocrisy of Labor

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Lexi,
Your last line is good, about supporting the factions.

Rudd said today that he wants to be rid of the factions and install integrity. He used the factions to become PM and when there he ran a one man band virtually and now he wants more input from party members.

He has more spin than a clothes dryer and Gillard has learnt from him.

How can you believe anything he says.

Did you hear what Richo said on news tonight, and he is Labor!

Hope you noticed the story came from the Age, not a Murdock paper.
Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 27 November 2011 8:11:46 PM
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If I had to choose between the Sauce Bottle, Mr RAbbott, and Rudd. I'll be going with Rudd.
Posted by StG, Sunday, 27 November 2011 8:32:12 PM
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I rather like Banjo, we seem to share a childhood on struggle street.
And some views and opinions than bring us enemy's and the tag racist.
But let us look, with eyes open, at his thoughts here,I expect raw mustard to show contempt, others to.
But my pain killer here is not aspro, it is the firm understanding, they know no better.
Two party preferred, at its lowest ever polls 45% of Australians support Labor.
Rudd is quite right, Bazz and others will in time, and have, used the same words to describe my party.
I love the ALP but fear,without the changes recommended it with be a third or even fourth party.
FACTIONS seem to exist to push certain issues, but in truth my loved forever Union movement, is a faction ,in fact about three.
It sees the center unity [right] control conferences state and federal.
I a lover of both, have been to such conferences, once 60% of those there came from the union,by party law.
Some ,falling over them selves drunk, came only to vote, unaware of what they voted for,some would not know the party's leaders.
Numbers not principles food for factions
Now? half? yes one in two! are union members , in a world my loved movement is representing less than 1 in 5 workers
Union power puts good people with ability into Parliament, they do but fools too,as a reward! or to dump them! for being no good! like that awful left leading fool!
continued.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 28 November 2011 4:22:05 AM
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All party's have factions so too has clubs sporting and such.
Hard to break the grip of a faction, harder to remember group club first not the head of a faction.
ALP factions gave birth to the greens
Bob Hawk, proved the ALP Conservation credentials by saving the Franklin.
Bob Brown became leader, and bit the hand than helped him do so.
I have seen unions bring rank and file members to weekend conferences, to vote.
I have seen that person vote union official on each side watching to see he votes as told.
I have sat with left learning officials, and seen orders given to them,when to lift their arm and vote.
Factions exist for self interest of clan like faction heads not members.
My ALP is better served by giving more say to members less to union heads,it is they spending the currency of members numbers,those members have little say.
My Union movement gave birth to a child the ALP that long ago left home, returning for us to do the washing but we do not need to live together as many members are unhappy as happy with our use of power they gave us.
Rudd is right,factions hid his anger, it may have been fixed, factions keep Gillard in a job few want her to have.
45% of Australians two party preferred do not share the view Labor is trash, are not unaware of past *faceless men*
A slur used even today to try to drag the horrible 1970,s back to these days when indeed they pulled the strings.
I tender this Banjo,I truly think/KNOW history will be unkind to these days.
A BLIND near hate, willingness to avoid truth, devision creating leader and only a few, a faction, has dirtied the name of Liberalism.
Let Labor/ Union rank and file be heard., or let it die.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 28 November 2011 4:53:44 AM
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The once mighty Labor Party is in decline. No wonder, the party lost its direction some time ago. No longer a party of radicalism, not even a party of reform couldn't even call it a party of change, What or who does the Australian Labor Party represent? I don't know. Sometime ago Labor in its quest for popularity took a huge shift to the right, disenfranchising its grass roots support, it gained some new fair weather friends and short term power, its new friends soon lost interest when the Conservatives took and even bigger shift to the right and quickly jumped onto their bandwagon. Now Labor increasingly finds itself out in the cold. No matter what spin you put on it the very best Labor can ever hope for at the polls is maybe 1 in 3 votes. To gain office in the future Labor is going to have to rely more and more on the party of the left The Greens. A minority within The Greens, such as myself, argue that we should not give support to the ALP, let them fail. Following a period of instability, the conservatives, the do nothing parties, would soon fail the people as well, as demonstrated by what is happening in other parts of the developed World, the World can no longer afford the luxury of do nothing. The Greens would be stronger for it and be seen as the real alternative to the failed old brigade.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 28 November 2011 5:38:58 AM
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There's a lot of jovial bloggers around at the moment. Now that toni has failed in his only parliamentary job, to remove the labor party, he will now have to turn his attention to talking economics. With the coalition and pledges written in blood, it should be an interesting run up to the next election.
Posted by 579, Monday, 28 November 2011 6:49:03 AM
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