RObert, Banjo I respect you both, but AGAIN charge you both with a special blindness here.
I [show me yours] have started thread after thread CONDEMNING THE ACTIONS OF MY PARTY]
In this thread, mention two MAGGOTS from with in NSW Labor! and my faction of it!
Who helped put the crimson things in Pubs, some they own.
Have you dropped in to one? once nice clean after work pub?
Now brothels! you can buy a big screen or sex a list will be taken and you can pick it up after.
Seen the widows, alone and desperate, putting note after note in.
Been out with the boys, like me, got drink and put a thousand in you never would have?
GEE! sorry!so awful having to say up front I want to spend 20 bucks.
How dare they!
We go to pubs to get full and be milked, or do we.
Be fair dinkum fellas, how the crimson hell can you not see I am not defending a party but FIERCELY defending idiots children,it is them who suffer.
I shudder true, that you seem to buy the cow dung its a tax its going to work/ then not and its government intervention for the sake of anything other than concern about some thing that in truth should have remained in Casinos.

Sorry Loudmouth, onshore processing does not lead to releasing into the community of those who's claims have been found to be legitimate, it leads to letting into the community, & subsidising to the tune of half a million each in housing & welfare, of all those who's claims could not be proven to be illegitimate.

This is quite a different thing.

A simple law that deports all who can not prove the legitimacy of their identity & claim would take all the heat out of the argument, & reduce to a minor trickle the flow of boats carrying illegals hiding in the system.

And i suppose the liberal lot would be all for it too.

579,

Here's a crazy idea:

* Nauru

* First eight hundred to arrive by boat go to Nauru, and to the back of the seven-year queue

* Australia takes four thousand Burmese refugees, fully processed, from Malaysia

* Boats stop. We take more refugees than arrive by boat. Nauruans are happy, Malaysians are happy, Burmese refugees are happy. People-smugglers are not happy. Greens are not happy.

Sounds a fair deal all-round :)

Joe

You would have to put it through the court, Australia has already taken charge of these people. Why not get them to drive their boats to Naru, that way we wouldn't have to worry about them. It would be Naru's problem.

Belly,
I have never offered any opinion about whether I support wilkies proposal on pokies or not. But the person who claimed it was a 'footy tax' was wrong. It is not a tax but it is a cost that will effect the club/pub patrons and I can see many problems in its implementation and have doubts if it will work.

What I have given is what I see as the political reality of trying to bring it in. Few votes for the government and many against,

If you are upset about the tax claim, well steel yourself as I think you will have far worse to contend with. There are powerfull interests opposing and a lot of club members who will also vote against it.

If I were the government I would be talking hard to Wilkie, trying to get him to soften his stance.