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Nanny State?

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Abbott has said that word rescind again. Poker machine reforms will be rolled away. He is making a mockery of himself and his party. No offshore processing, what is he trying to achieve. He will not see another election.
Posted by 579, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 1:42:42 PM
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579,
You are only wishfull thinking.

More regulation of pokies will cost this government, if they implement, as it will cost the clubs dearly and members will pay. More nanny state regulations!

As for offshore processing of illegals, I think the Libs will do whatever it takes to stop the boats from coming. Nauru, TPVs, no permanent residence, make them wait 10 years like Africa. Whatever to ensure the illegals get no advantage by coming. It will save lives also.

Only a few support the illegal entries, most people recognise they are con artists, gate crashers who take advantage of our naiveity and goodwill.
Posted by Banjo, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 3:00:21 PM
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Could say I am sorry for this comment, but it would be a lie.
We, well most of us find little wrong with Howard/Labors taking control of Aboriginals spending in the NT.
We conveniently for get this is not a tax,no way is it, and not on clubs or football, very much a minority in the poker machines race.
We over look over night in NSW,at the hands of MY PARTY, Hotel owners, two off them ex Labor Ministers, became millionaires.
Because at the back of every machine you set the house percentage, last time I heard 17% of all intake stayed with machines.
Hotels, some worse than dives, live on the very poor.
Nanny state?
So we tax by assuring idiots get a chance to bet less.
TAX indeed, show me the tax, how much, who gets it, show me why football.
When MORE HOTELS HAVE THEM than football clubs.
Are my figures right? do other clubs out number football clubs 10 to one.
Is truth of value in debate about politics?
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 4:08:32 PM
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"Is truth of value in debate about politics?"

Belly that particular tactic is getting pretty tiring. Truth is of great value, the sort of truth that would have you accept that it's about a lot more than claims of a "pokies tax", for some it's yet another poorly thought out out law unlikely to help problem gamblers and restricting the freedoms of the rest.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 5:00:29 PM
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Yes, damned if they do and damned if they don't...rather a rock and hard place.....mmmmmm I believe the answer is to point out and find the problem gamblers and ban them/no entry ( 6 to 12 months bans depending ). Clubs can have photos of members/non-members and guests, clubs can have cards with micro-chips pinpointing problem gamblers, or if you have a problem gambling problem, you should take Chopper reeds good advice, and harden up:)

If your putting your families cash flow into to poker-machines, go and seek the appropriate help. That's what Ive said to some, trust me....I gave a piece of my mind to one lady, who I watched put $1000 dollars with-in 20 Min's, but it made no difference, on she went to empty all she had........Mind you, she had a small fortune she said, and she wasn't kidding.

Australians are quite well aware of the fact, that they are responsible for what they/you do. I can also dump all my cash into these machines, but I don't.....Its that simple.

( Of course I have a life, but some do not )( lonely people are in our community )

One of the real reason for the machines is, when your in your retirement years, clubs/governments know your sitting on huge amounts of cash and you know the Australian Governments, they look at you from the cradle to the grave.


Have problem gamblers micro chipped like your cat:) as soon as they go anywhere near a machine, it just switches of, and No play for you. Of course this is just a wild thought, however identifying using technologies to high-light people with these problems might be the answer.
Maybe just a evil, we just have to live with.

CACTUS
Posted by Cactus..2, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 6:51:42 PM
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Never mind people. This is the new age of politics, as pioneered by the honourable Mr Tony Abbott MP.

Laws and reforms only last until the next election, and then all is rescinded!

I wonder, will Labor follow Abbott into this new paradigm? Will Abbott's reforms (after all the rescinding) be pledged in blood to be rescinded by a Labor opposition? Will Abbott even have any reforms, or just continue to rescind (as appears to be his political stance on everything). Will we see the dollar unfloated, a return to the White Australia Policy perhaps? Is this just how we should differentiate the two parties from now on? Labor's slogan is "moving forward", the Coalition's must be "moving backward".
Posted by TrashcanMan, Wednesday, 26 October 2011 11:56:53 PM
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