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The Forum > General Discussion > World Starvation /Refugees and the UN.

World Starvation /Refugees and the UN.

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QL - automation and job losses have gone hand in hand for the past 200 years, since someone found a better way of carpet croppong than by hand and someone else invesnted the spinning Jenny.

However, there was a growing economy and people were invention new things, large production replacing hand production, mass production replacing large production so things became cheaper and more available for those who could not have previously afforded the hand made article.... and that new production employed those who lost employment from cropping carpets and hand spinning cotton....

I recall the 1970s and seeing TV shows predicting the loss of jobs due to robotics and the paperless office due to computers.

Heck we use more paper than ever before and someone has to make and maintain the robots (actually I have a quote to supply something to one "robotic machine" maker at the moment)

The big difference between 200 years ago and now.... the job market is distorted by stupid laws and union restrictive practices which price manufacturing our o the country and over seas....

So look to the socialists for the job loss problems they have caused...

it is nothing which any amount of socialist welfare will ever cure.

One other thing... I egt the impression you think things are tougher for GEn X and Gen Y than for B'Boomers... and previous generations...

you are wrong, of course...

So you have challenges to face .... but so too BBs had the challenge of living with a nuclear horror which has receded

My parents and grandparents generations were shaped by two World Wars

and the great depression..

at least you don't have to worry about contracting tuburculosis (which one of my grandfathers died from) or polio or diptheria...

At least you might live long enough to solve a few problems for the benefit of Gen Z and Gen AA....

but I bet GEn Z and GEn AA dont thank you for it.... they will be too pre-absorbed coming to grips with their own "generational issues"
Posted by Col Rouge, Thursday, 11 August 2011 9:12:40 PM
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Yabby: Just give third world women a choice. You are not going to stop people having sex, but provide the needs for family planning.

Yabby, Yabby, Yabby. You just don't get it do you. We are not talking about the West with all it's Political Correctness, niceties, politeness, couth & culture & over educated Larte greenies snobs. We are talking about uneducated, tribal nomads who have an oppressive ancient religion & equaly ancient local customs. There is no equal rights for the women there. They have never heard of such a thing. They do have family planning of sorts. When the husband goes away he sews his wifes virgina up with Acasia thorns. Such is their way of life. It's so his neighbour doesn't take advantage of his absents. If his neighbour did take advantage then he'd have to kill her for the shame she has brought on him. Go figure.

Leave them to their fate & let nature take it's course. Let the Islamic countries deal with the situation & look after their own. The West should steer well clear of this region of the World.
Posted by Jayb, Thursday, 11 August 2011 10:07:57 PM
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Jayb, its your kind of ignorance, along with that of the Vatican,
that is actually part of the problem.

I don't believe in either extreme, I believe that that the answer
lies somewhere in the middle. I am all for empowering people to
help themselves. Given a choice, you would be amazed how many would
take that option.

Plenty of work has been done in this field, by the Guttmacher
Institute, by Marie Stopes and similar. The evidence is clear,
what people need is to be given that choice. Not denied it by
either yourself or the Vatican. So how many kids would you
have, if you were denied that choice?
Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 11 August 2011 10:33:48 PM
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Yabby: Jayb, its your kind of ignorance, along with that of the Vatican, that is actually part of the problem.

Yabby, I'm all for these women getting family planning, Choice, equal rights, etc. I really don't give a rats a$(# about what the Vatican thinks or says. Who takes any notice of them anyway.

The reality is;

We are not talking about the West with all it's Political Correctness, niceties, politeness, couth & culture & over educated Larte greenies snobs. We are talking about uneducated, tribal nomads who have an oppressive ancient religion & equaly ancient local customs. There ARE no equal rights for the women there & we can't force it on them just because it makes all the Political Correct, nice polite, couth & cultured & over educated Larte greenies snobs feel all warm & bloody fuzzy.

Leave them to their fate & let nature take it's course. Let the Islamic countries deal with their situation & look after their own. The West should steer well clear of this region of the World.
Posted by Jayb, Friday, 12 August 2011 12:05:49 AM
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Leave them to their fate & let nature take it's course......YEAH! RIGHT....that's the common thoughts and the norm-pipe dreams we all pretend to ignore just to make our feeling better about yourselves.

I new thought.....an injection given to all women from what ever time frame or country, which all sex can happen, but NO babies will be produced. The only human on this planet that can wipe us all out, is the human female. if THEY HAVE A BRAIN...AND THEY DO....will understand the love of giving new life......but at what cost? If your a female and you know your child you give life too............Question 1...what future will your child have with NO jobs in sight!
2..Will you be satisfied knowing the child's life will be what we see today.....and don't say.....males are to blame, their in the same vote as all are when it comes to the space-environment-and opportunity that all will face with overpopulation, and its true........both are going to be ignorant to the fact, that the child you both make with the love as is natural to all living things that are in balance with natures LAWS that humans seem to think is doesn't apply to them.

I say......make a global LAW........1 year for breeding.......and five years for doing the wild-thing until the skin gives you a rash, and the high you desire which ever way you want!......but NO BABIES!

The plan is, let the death rate, over ride the birth rate........and all PLUS you......will be here......and the planet can regenerate, and by that time.......true balance with all living things will be here for all to use with the blessings of commonsense.

Push this planet any further, you will have NO home to call home.

Ladies......the world is in your hands.

LEAP
Posted by Quantumleap, Friday, 12 August 2011 2:21:01 AM
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We can no longer put the world up in to sections and say let them die.
Any mass deaths brings mass refugees and even if we wanted to this country could not stop a million boat people.
I am not proposing an American/coalition of the willing intervention.
But a combined world one.
A UN with teeth /laws/a mission to act in the interests and under the rule of every country on these issues.
We surely must try, or be compared to Hitler.
We too must confront because of culture religion, lack of understanding and education these folk do not have the chance to do better yet.
South African head of state, one step out of the caves says aids is not transmitted by sex, that is our problem, not his,we should remove him.
Humanity is one or it is nothing,it is worth short term acts some see as inhuman to get a result that ends production line over population and deaths by starvation.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 12 August 2011 6:03:47 AM
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